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Post by Billy Idle on Jun 17, 2021 20:21:27 GMT
FIFA ranking is based on:
Importance of match (depends on the tournament) Result of the match
So, for example, England getting to the semi finals of the World Cup is a significant boost
As was winning The Nations League
Netherland's rating would be lower as they have not qualified for a major tournament (until now) since 2014
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 20:51:37 GMT
Yet another FIFA own goal which belittles actual achievement.
The Netherlands have definitely achieved more in World football than England.
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Post by stu77 on Jun 17, 2021 22:35:54 GMT
Sneaking feeling this will be a 1-1 draw.
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 18, 2021 6:16:48 GMT
Yet another FIFA own goal which belittles actual achievement. The Netherlands have definitely achieved more in World football than England.
You're just pretending to misunderstand
Or are you really a simpleton ?
FIFA rankings are like a league table
You might as well look at last season's Premier League and say Yet another Premier League own goal which belittles actual achievement. Nottingham Forest have definitely achieved more in football than Manchester City.
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 18, 2021 6:18:22 GMT
Sneaking feeling this will be a 1-1 draw.
England probably win 8 times out of 10
Who knows what will actually happen
This could be one of the 2 times when the underdogs get a victory
We all remember Iceland right
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 18, 2021 6:20:17 GMT
Scotland taking the knee tonight too
Solidarity!
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 18, 2021 6:59:39 GMT
It's like a derby game. Formbook goes out of the window
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 7:22:51 GMT
Yet another FIFA own goal which belittles actual achievement. The Netherlands have definitely achieved more in World football than England.
You're just pretending to misunderstand
Or are you really a simpleton ?
FIFA rankings are like a league table
You might as well look at last season's Premier League and say Yet another Premier League own goal which belittles actual achievement. Nottingham Forest have definitely achieved more in football than Manchester City. Another hipster Instagram diddy who gets his knowledge of football from the internet🤣 That example couldn't have been more ignorant.👍 Forest won back to back European cups when they were considered a 'provincial'team. An Incredible achievement. It took Man City tens of millions just to win Premier league titles when they were floundering in obscurity for years. Get back to your Tik Tok and leave this discussion to adults. 👍
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 7:28:18 GMT
It's like a derby game. Formbook goes out of the window I think England will win this one comfortably. It'll be interesting to see how Clarke approaches it however.
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 18, 2021 8:02:48 GMT
Get back to your Tik Tok and leave this discussion to adults. 👍 Salty (x 2)
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Post by personunknown on Jun 18, 2021 8:05:56 GMT
No doubt Boris has phoned Southgate and told him to ease up after putting 4 past the Haggis Heads in the first thirty minutes in case it upsets those wavering No independence referendum voters.
An absolute thrashing will be like the chopping up of William Wallace, it'll make the Scots more resolute. Sturgeon will make some claim that she's a descendant of Robert The Bruce and then they'll be an Irn Bru and Highland Toffee embargo....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 8:19:38 GMT
Get back to your Tik Tok and leave this discussion to adults. 👍 Salty (x 2)
Good to see that you've decided to not embarrass yourself further👍
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 18, 2021 8:26:36 GMT
Unlike some
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 8:43:54 GMT
Why don't you just give us your thoughts on the football instead of going on about this mince?
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Post by doug61 on Jun 18, 2021 8:58:43 GMT
I agree rankings are meaningless, but I was responding mainly to your claim that England were "second tier". If I were to "tier" countries I would say Tier 1 are the countries who regularly move beyond the early "league" stage of tournaments and contest the latter stages which would include England, Tier 2 would be clubs who regularly reach the early stages but rarely progress and tier 3 would be teams that never or rarely qualify for tournements. That takes the vagaries of rankings away as teams like the US can be high when they play a lot of easy fixtures at other times. That's true but what makes the criteria to fit into the second tier?And what is it judged upon? Time?Period of Time? Would you say that the Netherlands for example are in the same tier as England when they have won the Euro's in 1988 and been World Cup finalists 3 times(1974,1978, 2010)? All these achievements all done after England played and won their only final in 1966? Well, what sorts out the pecking order in each tier would be successes obviously, as for time periods it would be fairly recent as teams get better or worse over time periods and can move between tiers. You can have "golden generations" like the current Belgium side and teams who geographically have much larger/smaller land masses to get talent from. Were Arsenal successful finishing top 4 for twenty years without winning the title? Most people would settle for being there or thereabouts and in with a shot of winning each time just to keep interest going. Your only criteria for success seems to be winning the whole competitions which I would disagree with, cup football is always open to so many outside factors and progress and consistency has to count for something. England's main problem is probably the media who regularly champion/demonise individuals and exert too much pressure, but there does seem to be a psychological problem with taking the final hurdle (or winning penalty shootouts) that does need addressing. As for tonight's game, I fully expect Scotland to raise their game and not wish to concede. England will need to be patient as Scotland will be happy with the draw or looking to score on the counter. My guess would be 2-0 with the second coming at the death when Scotland are desperately chasing a goal, but who knows. Hope it's a good game and may the best team win. Just hope VAR doesn't wreck it.
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