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Post by doug61 on Jun 18, 2021 13:18:41 GMT
I just want to know what the fuck "Tik Tok" is
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Post by doug61 on Jun 18, 2021 13:19:34 GMT
Scotland win the more manly handshake award.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 13:25:03 GMT
I just want to know what the fuck "Tik Tok" is Not to be confused with the sweets Tic Tac. It's a video app for millenials and others who look at their phones all day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 13:25:46 GMT
Scotland win the more manly handshake award. Those shorts Stuart Adamson has on are ghastly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 13:43:26 GMT
Compared to the successful teams in Europe. England have never had a 'golden period'. Their achievement has been erratic compared to say, the Netherlands If success isn't measured on winning then why take part? Arsenal have always been a mediocre team in English football compared to the likes of Manchester Utd, Liverpool etc. Being also rans is what's expected of them. As for the game tonight?I don't think Scotland will come out fighting but it would be good if they did. I don't like Clarkes team selection(s) for a start. If Billy Gilmour is as good as his sycophants in the Scottish press claim he is, he should play from the start. I'd bin VAR. What a horrible concept. Not an Arsenal fan, but to describe a team who qualified for the Champion League 20 years on the trot as "also rans" is just silly. I just think your definition of being successful is too narrow. Were Scotland to reach the semi finals say, that would be a huge success for them, yet you would seemingly belittle it as not important as it isn't measured on winning. Winning is always to aimed for but only one side can be successful so success, whether it be at National or League levels is measured on many different things. Agree with VAR, it's been hopeless, Glad my side is in a League that doesn't have it. You could argue that they really didn't deserve to be in the CL because most of the time they didn't win their own league whereas the likes of Celtic had to go through qualifiers. However, that's an argument for UEFA. You would think that given the resources of Arsenal compared to other clubs they would do a lot better but they don't. Again, it's all relative. Scottish club football operates at a lower level but it doesn't make it any less passionate for the supporters. Also, Celtic isn't just a football club. It has always been a social and political entity so it's more than football.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 13:49:38 GMT
Football success is all relative. Arsenal will never be mentioned in the same breath as Liverpool, Man Utd or even the great Leeds Utd, Forest teams of the past. You ARE a millennial hipster. It sticks out a mile.👍 Now stop trolling people and contribute something useful👍 Come on, the Leeds remark has to be in jest, surely. 13-3 in League titles for a start to Arsenal. Again, it's all relative. Leeds and and to a lesser degree Nottingham Forest dominated English periods for brief periods. Again, these clubs weren't expected to do anything in football. Arsenal have always been vaunted as this massively successful club but considering the opportunities they've had to do better they just don't seem good enough when it comes to winning most of the competitions they enter. This is what I mean by serial under achievers. Does their bottle crash or have they just not got the quality when the chips are down?
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 18, 2021 14:31:30 GMT
Doug, give it up mate He'll never accept he's wrong He'll argue red is blue despite everyone telling him he's got it wrong He likes to pretend he's the big I am but he doesn't know jack
Wonder who is at number three in this list football clubs in England by competitive honours won... ?
Oh. It's Arsenal. What a surprise (to no one except roguepunk)
He'll come back with some old pony about why the list is wrong
Like he did with FIFA rankings because it disproves his argument
Honestly, waste of time trying to debate with such a stubborn and closed minded individual
He will never accept he's made a ricket
Sorry for taking the Euro 2021 thread off on such a tangent
Best just to nod and agree when he comes out with his next idiotic statement
Waiting for the next ill informed comment / insult / stereotypical comment about "hipster millenials" or TikTok or whatever
Not a clue
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Post by doug61 on Jun 18, 2021 15:27:53 GMT
Scotland win the more manly handshake award. Those shorts Stuart Adamson has on are ghastly. from the "shortyshorts" period.
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Post by doug61 on Jun 18, 2021 15:29:22 GMT
Not an Arsenal fan, but to describe a team who qualified for the Champion League 20 years on the trot as "also rans" is just silly. I just think your definition of being successful is too narrow. Were Scotland to reach the semi finals say, that would be a huge success for them, yet you would seemingly belittle it as not important as it isn't measured on winning. Winning is always to aimed for but only one side can be successful so success, whether it be at National or League levels is measured on many different things. Agree with VAR, it's been hopeless, Glad my side is in a League that doesn't have it. You could argue that they really didn't deserve to be in the CL because most of the time they didn't win their own league whereas the likes of Celtic had to go through qualifiers. However, that's an argument for UEFA. You would think that given the resources of Arsenal compared to other clubs they would do a lot better but they don't. Again, it's all relative. Scottish club football operates at a lower level but it doesn't make it any less passionate for the supporters. Also, Celtic isn't just a football club. It has always been a social and political entity so it's more than football. Oh, I agree, I would bring back the European Cup with just the League winners. Not that I even really watch it.
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Post by doug61 on Jun 18, 2021 15:33:58 GMT
Come on, the Leeds remark has to be in jest, surely. 13-3 in League titles for a start to Arsenal. Again, it's all relative. Leeds and and to a lesser degree Nottingham Forest dominated English periods for brief periods. Again, these clubs weren't expected to do anything in football. Arsenal have always been vaunted as this massively successful club but considering the opportunities they've had to do better they just don't seem good enough when it comes to winning most of the competitions they enter. This is what I mean by serial under achievers. Does their bottle crash or have they just not got the quality when the chips are down? Sorry, but I just can't get my head around the idea that a team who have won 13 League titles (and your arguments on England are all based on actually winning things) cannot be "mentioned in the same breath" as Leeds Utd, a side who have won three. The argument is just not consistent.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 18, 2021 17:45:59 GMT
Kieran Tierney is fit
That's a big boost for Scotland
He's very good - and probaly Scotland's best player
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 19:53:48 GMT
Think it's been quite an even match so far....
McGinn seems to be a lot more aggressive than his last game.
However, where was Scotland's marking with Stones?
Tierney is a great player and a good strike by my mate's nephew to nearly open the scoring.
Bring on the second half👍
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 19:55:00 GMT
Doug, give it up mate He'll never accept he's wrong He'll argue red is blue despite everyone telling him he's got it wrong He likes to pretend he's the big I am but he doesn't know jack
Wonder who is at number three in this list football clubs in England by competitive honours won... ?
Oh. It's Arsenal. What a surprise (to no one except roguepunk)
He'll come back with some old pony about why the list is wrong
Like he did with FIFA rankings because it disproves his argument
Honestly, waste of time trying to debate with such a stubborn and closed minded individual
He will never accept he's made a ricket
Sorry for taking the Euro 2021 thread off on such a tangent
Best just to nod and agree when he comes out with his next idiotic statement
Waiting for the next ill informed comment / insult / stereotypical comment about "hipster millenials" or TikTok or whatever
Not a clue
Have you ingratiated yourself to the other posters yet?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2021 20:01:22 GMT
Again, it's all relative. Leeds and and to a lesser degree Nottingham Forest dominated English periods for brief periods. Again, these clubs weren't expected to do anything in football. Arsenal have always been vaunted as this massively successful club but considering the opportunities they've had to do better they just don't seem good enough when it comes to winning most of the competitions they enter. This is what I mean by serial under achievers. Does their bottle crash or have they just not got the quality when the chips are down? Sorry, but I just can't get my head around the idea that a team who have won 13 League titles (and your arguments on England are all based on actually winning things) cannot be "mentioned in the same breath" as Leeds Utd, a side who have won three. The argument is just not consistent. arseblog.news/2020/03/column-arsenals-so-called-invincibles-did-nothing-but-underachieve/#
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 18, 2021 20:53:17 GMT
Uninspiring
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