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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 19, 2021 14:56:44 GMT
Draw's still a great result for the Hungarians
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Post by Billy Idle on Jun 19, 2021 16:12:41 GMT
Yes. Really enjoyed Hungary v France. Hoping Portugal v Germany can deliver similar levels of drama and skill
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2021 16:54:33 GMT
The Portuguese were on the rack just before half time.
It is a cliche but you can never write off the Germans.
That winning mentality is always there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2021 17:40:32 GMT
And they're doing it!
Like a decent pint of Guinness.
Reliable🤩
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 19, 2021 17:55:20 GMT
Yeah. Surprisingly good given Germany’s recent form and the last World Cup. That group is now fascinating
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Post by smogquixote on Jun 19, 2021 21:04:08 GMT
Disappointing results for the favourites today, that Spain side were pretty boring to watch buy anything beats the late fixture last night.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 20, 2021 8:07:05 GMT
Best day of the tournament so far with Portugal v Germany being the best game of the tournament so far
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 20, 2021 11:06:10 GMT
From an article by Jonathan Northcroft in The Times today...
England quiz time.
“We’re a work in progress.”
Who said that?
Was it:
a) Roy Hodgson in 2012; b) Gareth Southgate in 2017; c) Roy Hodgson in 2016; d) Southgate in 2018; or e) Southgate in 2021?
The answer is:
All of the above. As works in progress go, it sometimes appears that mapping out deep space will be completed sooner.
Basically makes the point that the time is now
As he says...
“Work in progress.” With a squad containing riches of talent, the like of which almost every other nation can only dream about, this is surely a tournament that England should be ambitious to win, especially given the main host stadium is Wembley. It was concerning that Southgate’s reaction to two opening performances that fell short of expectations was to try to lower them.
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Post by doug61 on Jun 20, 2021 12:30:17 GMT
Southgate has built the team around Kane as the spearhead. When he doesn't get the ball he drops deep and plays a sort of dual role. It doesn't work. I think Southgate will stick with Kane despite what we can all see. It's not working. What's up with him? Tiredness and maybe those injuries are catching up for him. Hard to see anyone paying ÂŁ100 million for him after this tournament. Shame, at his best he is superb and consistently tops scoring and, recently, assist charts. Good news for Spurs fans I suppose. For me professional footballers shouldn't be'tired'. It's a disgraceful excuse and is all too prevalent in the modern game. They're like skittish race horses these days and have to be treated with kid gloves, which is why certain managers like Jose are fast becoming obsolete, he's not good enough at pampering prima donnas. Mind you at the very elite levels, everything is worked out on statistics and a 1% drop off in ground covered or what have you can be seen to make all the difference. Personally this is the reason I have little time for top flight football, the "moneyball" concepts have ruined the game we all grew up with.
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Post by doug61 on Jun 20, 2021 12:32:16 GMT
Southgate is playing the long game You've got Big Nose all wrong He knows that if England don't finish top they most likely avoid having to play France, Germany or Portugal. At least until the final A misunderstood tactical genius?
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Post by doug61 on Jun 20, 2021 12:33:27 GMT
The Portuguese were on the rack just before half time. It is a cliche but you can never write off the Germans. That winning mentality is always there. The bookies immediately jump Germany to second favourites.
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Post by doug61 on Jun 20, 2021 12:33:55 GMT
Yeah. Surprisingly good given Germany’s recent form and the last World Cup. That group is now fascinating Some pretty shit defending helped.
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Post by Billy Idle on Jun 20, 2021 13:26:06 GMT
Interesting how the more elite teams do best against other elite teams who don't sit deep
I think that's why France beat Germany but also why Germany beat Portugal
Also why the more open games are often later in the competition
No one has really looked that impressive yet and to my eyes there is no obvious stand out team
I'm tempted to say Italy but let's wait until they play one of the better teams
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2021 14:54:10 GMT
For me professional footballers shouldn't be'tired'. It's a disgraceful excuse and is all too prevalent in the modern game. They're like skittish race horses these days and have to be treated with kid gloves, which is why certain managers like Jose are fast becoming obsolete, he's not good enough at pampering prima donnas. Mind you at the very elite levels, everything is worked out on statistics and a 1% drop off in ground covered or what have you can be seen to make all the difference. Personally this is the reason I have little time for top flight football, the "moneyball" concepts have ruined the game we all grew up with. Sky getting involved in football was the beginning of the end. The mentality of the modern fan doesn't help either I mean leaving your seat 20 minutes before half time so you can be first in the queue to get a bloody pizza slice?! I mind at Parkhead in the 70's, they let everyone in for nothing at half time. Ideal for us skint street weans who would walk over from the Southside.🙂
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Post by doug61 on Jun 20, 2021 15:28:16 GMT
They're like skittish race horses these days and have to be treated with kid gloves, which is why certain managers like Jose are fast becoming obsolete, he's not good enough at pampering prima donnas. Mind you at the very elite levels, everything is worked out on statistics and a 1% drop off in ground covered or what have you can be seen to make all the difference. Personally this is the reason I have little time for top flight football, the "moneyball" concepts have ruined the game we all grew up with. Sky getting involved in football was the beginning of the end. The mentality of the modern fan doesn't help either I mean leaving your seat 20 minutes before half time so you can be first in the queue to get a bloody pizza slice?! I mind at Parkhead in the 70's, they let everyone in for nothing at half time. Ideal for us skint street weans who would walk over from the Southside.🙂 Was nothing but wagon wheels and Bovril , the height of football cuisine in the 70's. Plus the shelled peanut man who would wander around the terraces, and hot chestnuts from a brazier outside the ground for an evening game. Fuck, I miss those times. Terry Hurlock tackles and getting a slap from your team mates if you went to ground for anything less than a broken leg.
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