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Post by zeopold on Jun 16, 2022 11:34:22 GMT
I travelled the world for work for about 20 years. Working with people in other countries is a great way to get a sense of the culture. If you knew Glasgow One side of my family is from Castlehead, and consider weegies to be little more than sassenachs.
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Post by zeopold on Jun 16, 2022 11:36:01 GMT
That's the guy who moved to the IoM to get away from blacks and fiddle his taxes, right? Can't imagine Bim fiddling his taxes The IoM is a tax cheats' hidey-hole. That's the main reason most people move there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 11:36:56 GMT
I’ve just made this up… MODERATOR ROLE 1. Check all messages once, ideally twice, a day 2. Delete any posts that are racist, sexist, homophobic or likely to offend in some other way, and DM the person to explain what you’ve done and why 3. Remind anyone who is being rude, insulting or intolerant that we want TP to be a welcoming and inclusive forum 4. Ban anyone who, after repeated warnings, continues to do any of the above 5. Delete any spam messages How does that look? Anyone else got any thoughts on the above? Thanks I personally think a Moderator should take more of a back seat. It definitely should be open enough to attract more members.
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Post by zeopold on Jun 16, 2022 11:40:16 GMT
I personally think a Moderator should take more of a back seat. Plenty of seats available on a forum with 5 active posters.
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Post by politician2 on Jun 16, 2022 11:42:51 GMT
The IoM is a tax cheats' hidey-hole. That's the main reason most people move there. Nonsense. Offshore doesn't work like that any more, though it certainly did 25+ years ago. In any case, if you physically move here you become tax resident, so you don't owe taxes anywhere else (except on certain types of overseas income). The dodge would be pretending to be tax resident here whilst actually living somewhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 11:44:04 GMT
You obviously haven't spent any considerable time in Belfast. Also, ask any person of colour what they think of your average British person's view on immigration? Report back with your findings👍 I have spent time in Belfast. I used to go there quite a lot. Both through the troubles and afterwards. Thanks for your reply Sadly it doesn't answer the original question Do you have any facts? Or anything you can point to as proof? Or are you just shooting from the hip? Fine if you are, just say so This is quite interesting... World’s Most and Least Racially Tolerant CountriesBased on the research of two Swedish economists, the Washington Post made a map of world’s most and least racially tolerant countries. The newspaper went back to the source, compiled the original data and mapped it out. In the bluer countries, fewer people said they would not want neighbours of a different race; in red countries, more people did. According to the survey, Anglo and Latin countries are the most tolerant ones. Also, Pakistanis are more racially tolerant than the Germans or the Dutch while France is the least tolerant country in Europe. “If we treat this data as indicative of racial tolerance, then we might conclude that people in the bluer countries are the least likely to express racist attitudes, while the people in red countries are the most likely”, concludes the Washington Post Whole thing here: www.media-diversity.org/worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/Where abouts in Belfast? I've been going to Belfast for over 45 years, usually Ardoyne in the North, Andy Town in the west and the Lower Ormeau Road in the south. Even Ballymacarrat in the east gets a visit occasionally.😀 You seem to think internet links and number crunching is a substitute for listening to people of colour who live in the UK. A cosy white man's view of racism. I work with at least 3 people from South Africa who moved to Castlemilk and the Red Road flats rather than live in London because the racism was so bad. which is pretty desperate by anyone's standards considering they had lived under Apartheid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 11:44:59 GMT
Also, ask any person of colour what they think of your average British person's view on immigration? Report back with your findings👍 I'll be sure to ask Bim next time I see him. He'll no doubt tell me that British people are far too tolerant of it. Your friend must be the exception the rule.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 11:47:20 GMT
I personally think a Moderator should take more of a back seat. Plenty of seats available on a forum with 5 active posters. True.
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Post by zeopold on Jun 16, 2022 11:47:58 GMT
The IoM is a tax cheats' hidey-hole. That's the main reason most people move there. you don't owe taxes anywhere else 'anywhere else' = the place where you made the money you're dodging tax on
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Post by doug61 on Jun 16, 2022 11:50:52 GMT
i think Labour would give them a referendum, as they should. For all the Conservative bleating that they had a "once in a generation" vote, they conveniently forget that it was based on the UK staying in the EU. Now that we have left I think they deserve to vote again. FWIW, I think Scotland would still vote to stay in the Union though. I believe the bookies have Starmer comfortably ahead in the betting for next PM. No one will do a deal with the Tories that would be of any significance. The Libs are likely to make major inroads into the Tories in posher areas and the old "red wall" are all expected to return to Labour. Seems to be the most likely result were there an election now, so don't think it's a "fantasist" stance. Mind you, the way the last few years have gone with Brexit and Covid, fuck knows what could happen by 2024. The Tories best hope is that Johnson is dumped and a newer fresher face comes along that the public doesn't know enough to hate yet, can't see that happening though, I would lay money the next election will be Starmer and Penny Mordaunt heading the main parties. The SNP are pushing ahead with a referendum BEFORE the next British General election so it's an irrelevant and redundant question. John Curtis has already stated thst Labour are marginally doing better than they were under Corbyn and this was after 'Partygate'! So your political analysis despite what Curtice says is'the Bookies say Labour will win'. Brilliant🤣👍 As for Scotland voting to stay, where's the evidence? Douglas Ross has already called for a unionist boycott which shows you they're running scared. If they want to disenfranchise themselves even before there's a 'Yes' vote that's up to them but that doesn't mean they should ignore a legitimate result. The SNP have an overwhelming mandate for a referendum backed by a popular vote over and over again. So much so that they have conclusively-by a country mile-won the last 5 elections on the bounce. "The SNP are pushing ahead with a referendum BEFORE the next British General election so it's an irrelevant and redundant question." I was pretty sure it couldn't be done with any legal basis without the "OK" from Westminster, am I wrong? If so, it's certainly not an "irrelevant and redundant question" When people vote SNP so they also hold their nose like Labour voters have to when they see all the dodgy financial dealings linked to Nicola and her husband's running of the finances?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 11:58:15 GMT
The SNP are pushing ahead with a referendum BEFORE the next British General election so it's an irrelevant and redundant question. John Curtis has already stated thst Labour are marginally doing better than they were under Corbyn and this was after 'Partygate'! So your political analysis despite what Curtice says is'the Bookies say Labour will win'. Brilliant🤣👍 As for Scotland voting to stay, where's the evidence? Douglas Ross has already called for a unionist boycott which shows you they're running scared. If they want to disenfranchise themselves even before there's a 'Yes' vote that's up to them but that doesn't mean they should ignore a legitimate result. The SNP have an overwhelming mandate for a referendum backed by a popular vote over and over again. So much so that they have conclusively-by a country mile-won the last 5 elections on the bounce. "The SNP are pushing ahead with a referendum BEFORE the next British General election so it's an irrelevant and redundant question." I was pretty sure it couldn't be done with any legal basis without the "OK" from Westminster, am I wrong? If so, it's certainly not an "irrelevant and redundant question" When people vote SNP so they also hold their nose like Labour voters have to when they see all the dodgy financial dealings linked to Nicola and her husband's running of the finances? Well they seem pretty confident that it'll be over and above board but we'll see. The more Johnston provaricates, the more it copper-fastens support for the SNP. As for the SNP and their record? It was never as bad as the corruption of the Labour Party who used to run Scotland like their own personal fiefdom. They have done some good but they just don't have the political will to go far enough but no one in their right mind will vote for Labour before Autumn 2023. My problem with the SNP is that they're a social democratic Scottish nationalist party rather than a Republican socialist one. I would expect a Republican socialist party to form post Independence but it's impossible to say which form it would take.
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Post by politician2 on Jun 16, 2022 12:01:58 GMT
you don't owe taxes anywhere else 'anywhere else' = the place where you made the money you're dodging tax on No. You have to pay your taxes up to date before you leave. You then become tax resident somewhere else, so all future earnings are taxable there, not wherever you previously lived.
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Post by doug61 on Jun 16, 2022 12:02:48 GMT
I can't find it The whole discussion is pretty respectful if a bit circular It's definitely there. Even Doug remembers it. This is all getting childish however. If you moderate fairly with a degree of political understanding then I'll do the same but I won't shirk from challenging accepted versions of racism even when they may be populist or not, here or anywhere. If you can't handle some gentle piss taking when you make ridiculous claims about The Clash or when You start calling anyone who doesn't agree with an extreme "open borders" position a "racist" then I am amazed you even use message boards. Considering your inability to accept anyone else's viewpoints I think people are amazingly polite in their responses, certainly other boards would take a far more verbally robust response to some of your insults and name calling.
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Post by politician2 on Jun 16, 2022 12:04:51 GMT
I was pretty sure it couldn't be done with any legal basis without the "OK" from Westminster, am I wrong? You are correct. A further referendum requires permission from the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, not the First Minister of Scotland, to have legal status. If a referendum were held without that permission, it could be declared illegal and ignored. But I also think you're correct that another referendum would produce a second vote to remain part of the UK.
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Post by zeopold on Jun 16, 2022 12:15:31 GMT
When people vote SNP so they also hold their nose like Labour voters have to I would expect a Republican socialist party to form post Independence but it's impossible to say which form it would take.
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