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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 4, 2023 21:59:54 GMT
The man’s a nut case. There’s no rational decision making going on hence why no sensible application to an FE college
Also the doc explains that the medical school will not admit students over the age of 30
The whole thing is bizarre, which is what makes it so compelling
The real question is how did he get away with it? Most of his classmates still seem baffled
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2023 22:46:49 GMT
This is my whole point.
If he knew all this WHY go to a high school?
He's a 32 year man and should never been near children.
Trying to make it into a 'fun' and 'whacky' documentary is shocking.
Oh, but it's wealthy Bearsden so that's OK then. It points out the failings of Bearsden Academy's selection system in admitting this creepy fraudster more than anything else.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 5, 2023 7:49:28 GMT
It's not fun and whacky
It's thoughtful and considered
You seem to think that he's a dark individual who has done something really bad
In reality he's a disturbed person who, egged on by an aspirational mother, tried to have another go at becoming a doctor in a truly bizarre way
Virtually everyone who came into contact with him at the school found him likeable and friendly
He helped some people, who have fond memories of him
The whole scenario is bizarre and incredible - and raises loads of questions - which is what makes the doc so watchable
His ex-classmates are a really engaging and thoughtful bunch who look back with incredulity and amazement
You are quite right - it does show the failings of the system which, so it appears, have been tightened up considerably following this incident
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 8:24:29 GMT
You know something, I don't know who's more bizarre, him, the film makers or you😄👍.
An obviously 32 year old delusional fraudster using a film stars name infiltrates a posh high school, ingratiates himself to some of the impressionable children there, lies about his intentions, gives one of the pupils not one, but two prolonged creepy kisses in public in front of everyone and they decide to make an almost artschool film about it with whacky animation, photos on the head of the pupils and a bizarre then and now photo juxtaposition.
Must be a middle class thing👍
Everyone I've spoke over Christmas thinks he was a manipulative arsehole who shouldn't have been there but you don't.....🤔
Incidently, can you answer this question-the one you've been avoiding- would you be comfortable with a 32 year old man posing as a 16 year old kissing your daughter in public?
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 5, 2023 12:33:16 GMT
I would not be comfortable with a 32 year old man posing as a 16 year old kissing my daughter in public
But then what parent would?
Not sure what that has to do with the doc though?
Says who?
Clearly manipulative, clearly very delusional
Clearly should not have been allowed to return to school as a 30 year old
It's a safeguarding nightmare
The point we seem to disagree about is whether he's a predator
I think the evidence overwhelming points against that conclusion
His motivation is clearly to get back into medical school
The power and intrigue of the doc is around the reflections of the classmates and staff
And of course the key question: how did he get away with it for so long?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 12:45:17 GMT
You've answered your own question there.
So you're finally agreeing that this man should never have been near children like all sensible, like minded parents?
What has this to do with the documentary? I'm flabbergasted that you don't think this is central to the making of this awful documentary.
It seems to have gotten a touch of the'McCanns'...let's gloss over what really happened and whilst we're at it pretend it didn't happen the way it did.
Utterly, utterly bizarre logic.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 5, 2023 12:54:10 GMT
So you're finally agreeing that this man should never have been near children like all sensible, like minded parents? I never disagreed with you on this point The point we seem to disagree about is whether he's a predator I think the evidence overwhelming points against that conclusion His motivation is clearly to get back into medical school What has this to do with the documentary? I'm flabbergasted that you don't think this is central to the making of this awful documentary Correct. I don't And I thought it was an excellent documentary with themes around memory and mental health I just had a quick look online to see what the critics made of it - all glowing reviews, no surprise to me there This is just the latest example of why we can never get into a relationship together Sorry rogue, it can never work between us Mr Chalk say hello to Mr Cheese 🤠 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 13:00:04 GMT
I just don't think you understand media or working class people at all which is why you seemed have enjoyed this creepy nonsense.
Bizarre.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 5, 2023 13:06:53 GMT
The enjoyment is in the classmate's reflections - none of whom seem remotely troubled by the experience, with many having benefitted from it
That said, I'd hope it could never happen again because a real predator could have inflicted a lot of pain and suffering
Thankfully not in this instance, which is why Jono and the classmates could take a more light-hearted approach to much of the material
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 14:00:33 GMT
You must have been watching a different programme from me as a lot of the former pupils came across as embarrassed, bemused and awkward.
And so they should have too, given the passage of time.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 5, 2023 14:10:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 15:03:20 GMT
Ah, the old populist narrative based on ignorance.
Doesn't make it right. Ask anyone of these viewers would they trust him with their 16 old daughter?
We all know what the answer would be👍Lying for your own ends is never a good starting point to acheive anything.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 5, 2023 15:16:03 GMT
Populist narrative based on ignorance? Are you suggesting all those who watched, reviewed and rated didn't actually see the documentary? Or what?
Still struggling with why the question would a viewer "trust him with their 16 old daughter?" is relevant when deciding if it is an interesting and worthwhile doc
I doubt anyone defends what he did and I imagine everyone hopes it could never happen again
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 15:55:11 GMT
Ignorance in so far that the way that doc was presented.
The news reports up here didn't report it like that. It seems that he's was made a minor celebrity...mind you, this is from the same media who thought Jimmy Savile was a good guy.
No decent parent would tolerate NcKinnon's behaviour to their child.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 5, 2023 16:51:47 GMT
Agree no parent would welcome NcKinnon's behaviour to their child - even in the context of a school play. Then again it's interesting to consider that no one batted an eyelid at the time
Presumably you think he should be portrayed as a dangerous predator?
And that despite no victims or no one preyed upon, and everyone over the age of consent
I am really baffled by your position on this
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