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Post by stu77 on Sept 21, 2023 11:38:45 GMT
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Post by Billy Idle on Sept 23, 2023 6:26:40 GMT
Just what the world needs eh ?
Goth books are like buses . . .
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 23, 2023 10:05:18 GMT
I read both Cathi Unsworth and John Robb, not sure I'm ready for yet another Goth book just yet
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Post by zeopold on Oct 3, 2023 12:26:50 GMT
It wasn't really a 'thing' as far as I recall... and if it was, it was well and truly over by the time they named it and all those silly dweebs started running around dressed like the Addams family and listening to the Mission and Fields of the Nephilim.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 3, 2023 14:00:32 GMT
I first heard the term "gothic punk" around 1982/3
The Batcave started in 1982 and was originally a mix of glam and punk but quickly became more overtly goth when Alien Sex Fiend and of course, Specimen (with Ollie Wisdom who also started The Batcave) got going
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Post by stu77 on Oct 3, 2023 17:40:45 GMT
I bet 90% of these bands would not be happy being categorised.
Even now. Despite the fact that it's a selling angle.
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Post by jsm on Oct 3, 2023 22:16:09 GMT
Like a 77 punk band being called KBD or Old Skool
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Dec 19, 2023 14:05:48 GMT
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Post by doug61 on Dec 19, 2023 16:36:34 GMT
I'n just tossing up whether to start the Robb one or the Cathi Unsworth one tonight, am leaning towards Cathi at the moment as I think it may be a bit less dry .
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Dec 19, 2023 21:29:15 GMT
Both pretty good
Slightly preferred CU
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Post by doug61 on Dec 20, 2023 13:28:59 GMT
Read the first 50 pages of Cathi's one and was extremely underwhelmed. Very much a basic sketch of what happened in the period before goth as if written for someone who had never heard of punk. Hoping she will get to some more in depth stuff quickly. That said, I wasn't impressed with her ghosting of Jordan's story, which I felt deserved better than her telling.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Dec 20, 2023 14:49:15 GMT
Sorry to read that. Perhaps JR will be more to your taste? He takes a more rigorous almost academic approach
Cathi's book was more personal and playful, with fun non-musical chapters on less obvious Goth antecedents
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Post by doug61 on Dec 24, 2023 17:29:00 GMT
Laid up with a buggered back so blitz read Cathi's book, it got better but not much INHO, I had this idea it was about her life as a goth and how it made her etc, but was really just a light history of some of the bands of little information if you knew the bands already but useful for those you didn't know much about. Diamanda Galas's family background was about the only bit that really interested me. The whole thing had a bit of a feel of a co write with a subscription to "Rock's Back Pages". Gothed out, so just started ....  A much more interesting read already. |
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Post by stu77 on May 8, 2024 2:42:03 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on May 8, 2024 9:03:43 GMT
Thanks Stu That is a great interview John Robb, definitely one of the good guys  |
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