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Jan 6, 2023 10:02:05 GMT
Post by zeopold on Jan 6, 2023 10:02:05 GMT
^My hostility against the Labour Party isn't part of an abstract argument because 'I don't like Labour'. If you had the casting vote, who would you choose to run the country? a) Tories b) Labour |
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Jan 6, 2023 10:17:34 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 10:17:34 GMT
Well, considering I have an alternative in Scotland and the UK isn't a country, neither I would burn it.
It won't make any difference, more and more people are beginning to realise this in England.
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Jan 6, 2023 10:19:30 GMT
Post by zeopold on Jan 6, 2023 10:19:30 GMT
Well, considering I have an alternative in Scotland and the UK isn't a country, neither I would burn it. It won't make any difference, more and more people are beginning to realise this in England. It's a simple question but ok to dodge if you lack the courage to answer. |
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Jan 6, 2023 10:21:50 GMT
Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 6, 2023 10:21:50 GMT
^My hostility against the Labour Party isn't part of an abstract argument because 'I don't like Labour'. It's political and economic necessity. Their role has ALWAYS been to uphold the British State. The 'permanency' of what we're seeing just now-the chaos of Brexit, attack on the living standards of the majority of working class people, the destruction of the NHS and the extermination of sections of the poor are no accident. It's the end result of the neo-liberal agenda. Mass privatisation of whatever is left of public services and the destruction of the Trade Union movement. Why else have a lot of Trade Unions not affiliated or disaffiliated from New Labour.? They know they are sleeping with the enemy. As for voting. You can vote for New Labour but nothing will change, if elected they will pause the above and then continue. The so called Labour Movement has to split into left and right. If the Labour Left don't they're on borrowed time. This has been accelerated ever since the gangsters who ousted Corbyn have taken control of the party. The left Labour party would do better in an English parliament against New Labour and the Tories than they would just now. Much in the same way a radical socialist party would in an independent Scotland. In the meantime-resist these Tory bastards in anyway you can, strike if you can, do work in the community, anything...as things are going to get a lot worse. I wouldn't characterise it quite like that but not going to nitpick As Zeo asks above, and given all you say, if you have a straight choice between continuing the Tory government or putting Labour in place who you gonna choose? Binary decision.. Labour or Tory Coz that's what the electorate is facing in our undemocratic, first past the post system Over to you Labour or Tory? |
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Jan 6, 2023 10:22:42 GMT
Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 6, 2023 10:22:42 GMT
Simultaneous posts
Evading the question
Jeez
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Jan 6, 2023 10:24:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 10:24:57 GMT
Well, considering I have an alternative in Scotland and the UK isn't a country, neither I would burn it. It won't make any difference, more and more people are beginning to realise this in England. It's a simple question but ok to dodge if you lack the courage to answer. The courageous answer is neither as both are the same. That comprehensively answers such a silly question. Not being able to discern to yourself the truth is the REAL cowardice. |
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Jan 6, 2023 10:25:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 10:25:47 GMT
Simultaneous posts Evading the question Jeez See my answer to Zeo. |
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Post by zeopold on Jan 6, 2023 10:26:05 GMT
It's a simple question but ok to dodge if you lack the courage to answer. The courageous answer is neither as both are the same. That comprehensively answers such a silly question. Not being able to discern to yourself the truth is the REAL cowardice. It's ok to dodge if you lack the courage to answer. |
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Jan 6, 2023 10:29:05 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 10:29:05 GMT
^My hostility against the Labour Party isn't part of an abstract argument because 'I don't like Labour'. It's political and economic necessity. Their role has ALWAYS been to uphold the British State. The 'permanency' of what we're seeing just now-the chaos of Brexit, attack on the living standards of the majority of working class people, the destruction of the NHS and the extermination of sections of the poor are no accident. It's the end result of the neo-liberal agenda. Mass privatisation of whatever is left of public services and the destruction of the Trade Union movement. Why else have a lot of Trade Unions not affiliated or disaffiliated from New Labour.? They know they are sleeping with the enemy. As for voting. You can vote for New Labour but nothing will change, if elected they will pause the above and then continue. The so called Labour Movement has to split into left and right. If the Labour Left don't they're on borrowed time. This has been accelerated ever since the gangsters who ousted Corbyn have taken control of the party. The left Labour party would do better in an English parliament against New Labour and the Tories than they would just now. Much in the same way a radical socialist party would in an independent Scotland. In the meantime-resist these Tory bastards in anyway you can, strike if you can, do work in the community, anything...as things are going to get a lot worse. I wouldn't characterise it quite like that but not going to nitpick As Zeo asks above, and given all you say, if you have a straight choice between continuing the Tory government or putting Labour in place who you gonna choose? Binary decision.. Labour or Tory Coz that's what the electorate is facing in our undemocratic, first past the post system Over to you Labour or Tory? Incidently, time will tell but I predict here and now that New Labour will administer all the Conservative parties current policies of attacking the poor and Trade Unions unhindered if elected. So we shall see. I wouldn't bet on your horse that's for sure 👍 |
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Jan 6, 2023 10:30:36 GMT
Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 6, 2023 10:30:36 GMT
Unbelievable 🙄
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Jan 6, 2023 10:32:33 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 10:32:33 GMT
The courageous answer is neither as both are the same. That comprehensively answers such a silly question. Not being able to discern to yourself the truth is the REAL cowardice. It's ok to dodge if you lack the courage to answer. Neither. Would never vote for New Labour under any circumstances. As for voting Tory...some of us have lived in a Tory freezone for decades. Easy👍 That question is akin to asking someone if they'd like to be beheaded or garotted 👍😄 |
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Jan 6, 2023 10:33:49 GMT
Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 6, 2023 10:33:49 GMT
It's really not
Beheaded, FWIW
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Post by zeopold on Jan 6, 2023 10:35:55 GMT
It's ok to dodge if you lack the courage to answer. That question is akin to asking someone if they'd like to be beheaded or garotted 👍😄 I would choose beheading as it would be quicker. It's ok to dodge my question if you lack the courage to answer. |
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Jan 6, 2023 10:37:07 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 10:37:07 GMT
Bizarre...
Ok then, let's play these games. If it was a choice of getting the chance of getting readmitted to the EU or voting New Labour in, what would you vote for?
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Jan 6, 2023 10:37:44 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2023 10:37:44 GMT
That question is akin to asking someone if they'd like to be beheaded or garotted 👍😄 I would choose beheading as it would be quicker. It's ok to dodge my question if you lack the courage to answer. I think you have answered for both of us there😄 |
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