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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 11:49:42 GMT
Other than the opening chance and the goal England were terrible. However,they were miles better than the Croats who had no vision on how to switch play. Their passing was woeful too. As for Kane, he was just a lazy lump leading the line and did nothing and missed a total sitter. Only in the second half there were glimmers of a more expansive game. Entertainment value:2/10. That's what Croatia do Stiffle the opposition to control the game and then rely on moments of brilliance It got them to the World Cup Final Good to see England keep their shape and deal with it Not much fun to watch but has worked for Croatia Scotland and Czech Rep must be feeling quite positive The Netherlands v Ukraine. Best game so far and 2 exceptional goals by the Ukraine. However, their keeper made a right arse of everything.🤔 Fun fun fun As Gary Nev said, like watching a bunch of under nines all just chasing the ball. No tactics
Looking forward to seeing Scotland and Czech Rep later
I think I would rather have an open game with a bit of skill rather than the analytical boredom of the modern game. I also wouldn't give any creedance to anything Neville said either as before Alex Ferguson made him, he was an ordinary young player.
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 14, 2021 12:19:15 GMT
As England are in the 2nd tier of world football and given the nature of Sunday's performance I would say this. They have to dramatically improve if they are to get anywhere in the competition. They will get out of the group stage but as winners? It isn't guaranteed. Who is in the top tier of world football then?
Who is in the second tier with England?
Who is going to win Euro 21 then? In your opinion I think I would rather have an open game with a bit of skill rather than the analytical boredom of the modern game. I also wouldn't give any creedance to anything Neville said either as before Alex Ferguson made him, he was an ordinary young player. You don't rate Neville as a pundit? Who do you rate? You don't appreciate the technical aspects of the modern game?
You prefer watching the lower leagues? Or younger kids playing football?
What's your favourite formation?
Which modern managers do you rate?
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Jun 14, 2021 12:46:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 12:46:48 GMT
I refer you to my previous answers throughout this thread.
As for tactical football?
There should be a tactical formation but lets be honest, a lot of the modern game is to cagey. It stifles skill.
How old are you?
I would say England are in the same tier as Greece, the Netherlands etc and possibly at the lower end of that tier as they haven't reached a final or won anything for 55 years whereas the other teams I mentioned have.
Easy👍
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 14, 2021 12:54:29 GMT
I have not read the whole thread
So there’s discussion of your favourite football pundits and who you tip for victory in the Euros?
I’ll have a look
Oh, 28. I don’t know shit. Guessing you’re a bit older and wiser
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 14, 2021 12:57:59 GMT
International football can be cagey especially in tournaments but Premier League football is usually very entertaining
But guessing you mean international football
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 13:01:08 GMT
Why should anyone have a favourite pundit?!
I form my own opinions.
You're younger than me yes but that doesn't mean you understand the game any less or more.
The point is football is about entertainment.
Boring games like the England game show you turgid the so called experts with 'tactical nous' really are.
Which do you prefer?
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 14, 2021 13:17:34 GMT
Er. Sorry. You seem a bit angry
You said not to listen to Gary Neville (who I think is a good pundit) so just asked you which pundits you rate? Just an innocent question.
I had a look but could not see your tournament prediction(s). Sorry.
I quite enjoyed the England v Croatia game. Not a classic but plenty to enjoy and appreciate. Croatia set up to stiffle and frustrate, as usual, so interesting to see how their opponents adapt to that. I thought England coped very well and a big improvement on 2018
As you prefer up and at them football then I can imagine it probably does seem boring
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 14, 2021 13:24:27 GMT
Football is about entertainment? Not sure that's necessarily correct. Fun for the neutral but most fans will put up with a lot of shit if their team is winning.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 14:04:32 GMT
I don't see why you think it's angry because I don't rate the analysis of a pundit.
I can form my own opinions based on what I see for myself.
If football isn't about entertainment ultimately in these type of tournaments what's the point?
In the context of England. We all know what the answer to that is.🤔
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 14, 2021 14:16:04 GMT
Not watching Scotland so don't know how they're playing. The score suggests it's not going to well at Hampden. Shame.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 14, 2021 14:19:59 GMT
If football isn't about entertainment ultimately in these type of tournaments what's the point? Doubt Greek fans were complaining about the lack of entertainment in 2004 Or indeed the Danish fans in 1992
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 14, 2021 14:28:11 GMT
Well, the ideal is winning and playing entertaining football like Wenger's Arsenal or Fergie's United but a team has to play to their strengths.
Teams that employ a low block are just as legitimate as teams who pour forward.
Not every team is blessed with fast, young, athletic players like, say, England. Croatia are an ageing squad so they had to use different tactics. It's always interesting to see how teams set up based on their resources and the manager's style
If you only watch football for entertainment then you might be better off going to the cinema as it is often more tactical and attritional, or using set pieces, or defending and then relying on a counter attack like Mourinho (who I guess you must hate)
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Post by Mungo Jerry on Jun 14, 2021 14:31:04 GMT
So who is going to win roguepunk?
Who do you tip?
Obviously not England
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Post by personunknown on Jun 14, 2021 14:53:56 GMT
Only the Jocks could concede such a farcical second goal like that, useless Muppets. Stick to Shinty, lads.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 14, 2021 15:10:49 GMT
Only the Jocks could concede such a farcical second goal like that, useless Muppets. Stick to Shinty, lads. Wow. What a goal. Incredible piece of skill and opportunism. Keeper must be feeling a bit foolish though
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