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Post by stu77 on Nov 20, 2021 2:32:14 GMT
Is this band really so awful ?
They have a few decent songs I'd say - So Far Away , Money For Nothing and possibly Twisting by the Pool.
Mostly they're curiously passionless and proficient to the point of tediousness. But fair play to Mr Knopfler for knowing when to knock it on the head.
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Post by personunknown on Nov 20, 2021 7:03:12 GMT
I saw them in their early Sultans of Swing days and was impressed by the playing if not the material. Side 1 of Making Movies is classic guitar MOR, Tunnel of Love, Romeo and Juliet, Skateaway. The music press castigated them as Yuppie music and the tag stuck. They never got round to doing that collaboration with Chris Rea....
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Post by doug61 on Nov 20, 2021 14:08:02 GMT
Half a dozen great songs, a decent debut (weirdly pushed as "new wave" at the time) and didn't do much wrong for me until the Godawful MTV period. "Wild West End" is my personal favourite.
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Post by zeopold on Nov 20, 2021 19:57:45 GMT
Drab in the extreme
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Post by stu77 on Nov 20, 2021 22:09:38 GMT
I like the sound of this
Don't know the studio version
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Post by zeopold on Nov 20, 2021 22:35:50 GMT
Knopfler struggled when he worked with serious musicians When Fagen and Becker were in the midst of recording Gaucho, they listened to Dire Straits’ debut album and were particularly impressed by frontman Mark Knopfler’s guitar work on the seminal tune “Sultans of Swing.” As such, they invited Knopfler to take a crack at the solo on “Time Out of Mind,” despite Knopfler not being a sight reader — the preferred Steely Dan way of recording. Knopfler soon grew frustrated by the long, repetitious recordings in the studio, doubled with Fagen and Becker’s brash manner of criticizing his lack of progression. In total, Knopfler recorded over ten hours of guitar work, only for about 15 seconds to be used in the song’s intro. “It was a strange experience,” Knopfler later recalled, “like getting into a swimming pool with lead weights tied to your boot.” Becker later added of Knopfler’s frustration: “I think he definitely felt that, because he would play something and it was okay, then we’d like it later.”www.vulture.com/2018/11/steely-dan-stories-of-donald-fagen-and-walter-becker.html |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 21, 2021 7:49:36 GMT
Knopfler struggled when he worked with serious musicians When Fagen and Becker were in the midst of recording Gaucho, they listened to Dire Straits’ debut album and were particularly impressed by frontman Mark Knopfler’s guitar work on the seminal tune “Sultans of Swing.” As such, they invited Knopfler to take a crack at the solo on “Time Out of Mind,” despite Knopfler not being a sight reader — the preferred Steely Dan way of recording. Knopfler soon grew frustrated by the long, repetitious recordings in the studio, doubled with Fagen and Becker’s brash manner of criticizing his lack of progression. In total, Knopfler recorded over ten hours of guitar work, only for about 15 seconds to be used in the song’s intro. “It was a strange experience,” Knopfler later recalled, “like getting into a swimming pool with lead weights tied to your boot.” Becker later added of Knopfler’s frustration: “I think he definitely felt that, because he would play something and it was okay, then we’d like it later.”www.vulture.com/2018/11/steely-dan-stories-of-donald-fagen-and-walter-becker.htmlI'm with Knopfler on that one  |
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Post by Billy Idle on Nov 21, 2021 12:43:46 GMT
Is this band really so awful ? Pretty much Stu . |
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Post by doug61 on Nov 21, 2021 16:42:12 GMT
I used to get free tickets for the Royal Albert Hall and saw Clapton there with Knopfler as his guest. If you look up "drab" in the dictionary it has a picture of that gig under it. |
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Post by zeopold on Nov 21, 2021 17:02:57 GMT
Knopfler struggled when he worked with serious musicians When Fagen and Becker were in the midst of recording Gaucho, they listened to Dire Straits’ debut album and were particularly impressed by frontman Mark Knopfler’s guitar work on the seminal tune “Sultans of Swing.” As such, they invited Knopfler to take a crack at the solo on “Time Out of Mind,” despite Knopfler not being a sight reader — the preferred Steely Dan way of recording. Knopfler soon grew frustrated by the long, repetitious recordings in the studio, doubled with Fagen and Becker’s brash manner of criticizing his lack of progression. In total, Knopfler recorded over ten hours of guitar work, only for about 15 seconds to be used in the song’s intro. “It was a strange experience,” Knopfler later recalled, “like getting into a swimming pool with lead weights tied to your boot.” Becker later added of Knopfler’s frustration: “I think he definitely felt that, because he would play something and it was okay, then we’d like it later.”www.vulture.com/2018/11/steely-dan-stories-of-donald-fagen-and-walter-becker.htmlI'm with Knopfler on that one If he'd wanted an easier ride a guest spot with Anti Pasti might have been more appropriate  |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 21, 2021 17:15:16 GMT
I'm with Knopfler on that one If he'd wanted an easier ride a guest spot with Anti Pasti might have been more appropriate Maybe. I'm reminded of Phil Spector taking hours to record one chord and asking for endless repetition Get it down in a few sessions (e.g. Damned debut). Not many albums improved by years of studio noodling |
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Post by zeopold on Nov 21, 2021 18:07:07 GMT
I used to get free tickets for the Royal Albert Hall and saw Clapton there with Knopfler as his guest. Dull and Duller  |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 23, 2021 14:56:28 GMT
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Post by zeopold on Nov 23, 2021 14:57:52 GMT
I've moved the Steely Dan stuff into the Steely Dan discussion... Suffice to say our brief digression was the most interesting thing that ever came out of Dire Straits |
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Post by stu77 on Feb 1, 2024 19:27:14 GMT
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