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Post by Lord Emsworth on Dec 30, 2021 13:24:20 GMT
Ghislaine Maxwell found guilty
Glad to see the verdict
Wonder what implications it has for Prince Andrew
He must be sweating a bit now
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Post by doug61 on Dec 30, 2021 14:08:18 GMT
Not buying that Andrew knew her age or bothered to ask. Just a privileged twat who shags anything seemingly up for it. No upside in him knowingly having sex with a "minor" 17? I believe. Can't stand the bloke but I'm not buying all the "paedo" crap doing the rounds. Glad they found her guilty though, she seemed up to her neck in this stuff, a very unpleasant and fucked up business.
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Post by stu77 on Dec 30, 2021 14:33:28 GMT
It looks like a blackmail set up to me.
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Post by doug61 on Dec 30, 2021 15:49:47 GMT
It looks like a blackmail set up to me. Well, the legal blackmail of the litigation system. Get paid to shut up and go away while no liability is accepted by those paying.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Dec 30, 2021 17:20:42 GMT
Ghislaine Maxwell: What the trial means for Prince Andrew...
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59780323
Interesting point from the link above..
Une of his former closest friends is now a convicted abuser
During his 2019 BBC interview, Prince Andrew told Newsnight that his relationship with Epstein was a product of his long-standing friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell.
Specifically, he said he and Epstein first met in 1999 - and his closeness to Maxwell was the only reason he got to know the paedophile financier in the first place. Yet throughout this trial, Maxwell's accusers did not present her as some kind of unwitting helper for Epstein, but a woman who was central to his plans to commit abuse.
If Ghislaine Maxwell had been acquitted, that could have immediately undermined Virginia Roberts Giuffre's claims, because she alleges in court papers that the British socialite "spent years overseeing and managing Epstein's sex trafficking network, and actively recruited underage girls, including [herself]".
And so the conviction means Ms Giuffre's lawyers can go into her case against Prince Andrew saying it's now beyond reasonable doubt that Maxwell played a role in Epstein's abuse. The senior royal's relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell is now as important to the evidence in the damages case as his relationship to Epstein.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Dec 30, 2021 17:22:35 GMT
Ghislaine Maxwell: How accusers' testimony brought her down
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59780323
Must be a pretty sweet moment for the more than 100 accusers who fought for more than a decade to have Epstein and his co-conspirators face criminal charges.
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Post by stu77 on Dec 30, 2021 19:33:17 GMT
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Post by doug61 on Dec 31, 2021 9:50:44 GMT
Think I've seen him often as a pro Trump defender.
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Post by doug61 on Dec 31, 2021 9:54:07 GMT
What I find deeply offensive is that the costs of her defence and now appeal will have come from the proceeds of child trafficking (Epstein paid her about £3 million a year.) or if her family helped, the proceeds of the theft of pensioners money. Surely these moneys should be taken as proceeds of crime as regards Epstein's payments and distributed to the victims.
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Post by stu77 on Dec 31, 2021 15:33:18 GMT
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Post by zeopold on Dec 31, 2021 20:16:28 GMT
In the US it was. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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Post by doug61 on Jan 1, 2022 12:26:14 GMT
In the US it was. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Not sure, but I think it may even be different from state to state.
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Post by zeopold on Jan 1, 2022 20:48:11 GMT
In the US it was. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Not sure, but I think it may even be different from state to state. In Florida, where the encounters are said to have taken place, the age of consent is 18. Kiddy sex prince.
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Post by stu77 on Jan 3, 2022 3:25:43 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 4, 2022 12:51:01 GMT
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