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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 25, 2020 17:42:05 GMT
I'm now wondering about the Roguepunk verdict on Hüsker Dü
Started as part of the hardcore scene, but not sure they stayed in that category
Either way, I loved a lot of their output
What about you?
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Post by andyloneshark on Jun 25, 2020 20:06:41 GMT
An amazing and massively influential band... just go ask The Pixies, Leatherface, Soul Asylum, The Dough Boys, Moving Targets, The Lemonheads... for starters.
I first picked up on them around 1983/4 when i managed to get an Import copy of 'Everything Falls Apart' their first studio album. Nobody here apart from those in the Hardcore underground knew about them back then. That all changed when they signed to SST who had a licensing deal in the UK.
They were in competition with The Minutemen also on SST to see who could release the most records. Not sure who won, they were both incredibly prolific in only 3 years.
The first time i saw Hüsker Dü was at the Marquee in 1985. For some stupid reason i did not buy a ticket, i hadn't taken into account London gigs attract a huge variety of people. To cut a long story short, i met the band at a pub down the road from the Marquee, explained my dilemma to Bob Mould and Grant Hart and they got me in for free at part of their Road Crew. As a 'thank you' i bought Bob Mould a double whiskey.
Lemmy was there, and East Bay Ray of the Dead Kennedys popped into the dressing room to say 'Hi' after their set.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 22:58:54 GMT
I'm now wondering about the Roguepunk verdict on Hüsker Dü
Started as part of the hardcore scene, but not sure they stayed in that category
Either way, I loved a lot of their output
What about you?
I loved Husker Du up until 'Candy Apple Grey' Nige but 'Zen Arcade' was always my favourite album. I've no problem with a bit of innovation(I mean look at Ian MacKaye)in a band and that's the whole point isn't it? It's all punk rock to me. One of the saddest things in recent years was Grant Hart's death. He was far too young.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 23:01:58 GMT
An amazing and massively influential band... just go ask The Pixies, Leatherface, Soul Asylum, The Dough Boys, Moving Targets, The Lemonheads... for starters. I first picked up on them around 1983/4 when i managed to get an Import copy of ' Everything Falls Apart' their first studio album. Nobody here apart from those in the Hardcore underground knew about them back then. That all changed when they signed to SST who had a licensing deal in the UK. They were in competition with The Minutemen also on SST to see who could release the most records. Not sure who won, they were both incredibly prolific in only 3 years. The first time i saw Hüsker Dü was at the Marquee in 1985. For some stupid reason i did not buy a ticket, i hadn't taken into account London gigs attract a huge variety of people. To cut a long story short, i met the band at a pub down the road from the Marquee, explained my dilemma to Bob Mould and Grant Hart and they got me in for free at part of their Road Crew. As a 'thank you' i bought Bob Mould a double whiskey. Lemmy was there, and East Bay Ray of the Dead Kennedys popped into the dressing room to say 'Hi' after their set. Great reminiscences Andy. Surprised to see the bold Lemmy there but it just shows you the open mindedness of the man when it came to punk.
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Post by andyloneshark on Jun 26, 2020 8:55:13 GMT
...i think Lemmy was a regular in the Marquee anyway. They probably had a really good Fruit Machine which was his major addiction.
When i met the band, i was struck by how down to earth they were. No Rockstar threads or bullshit at all. Bob Mould was really shy back then. He asked me to buy him a double whiskey to calm his stage fright nerves before going out to 'face the music'
Soundwise it was not a great gig. Bob had his guitar up way too loud. They were so much better when i saw them in Bristol a year later. By then. they had just signed to Warner Brothers... which in Punk circles was deemed to be making a Pact With The Devil
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 10:03:46 GMT
I suppose it was due to the amount of independent labels active in the "scene then Andy.
Even though I supported the DIY ethos back then(and still do)I wouldn't be adverse to buying a major label record every now and again.
Aye, a lot of the decent musicians are down to earth.
If you're not approachable why be in a punk band?!
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Post by andyloneshark on Jun 26, 2020 10:16:42 GMT
If you're not approachable why be in a punk band?! True - i think at that time, i hadn't really spoken to any American bands at length at all. I was in awe of Hüsker Dü, and yet here i was standing at the bar with them, trying to blagg my way into one of their gigs when they were thousands of miles from home. I remember Greg Norton asked me what i thought of the Toy Dolls, which surprised me
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 10:46:08 GMT
What did you say?
I haven't met any 'famous' punk rockers really. Spoke to Steve Ignorant once and he was a nice guy.
Also Colin from Conflict who was being harangued by this drunk as he was going for a piss and I 'rescued' him😀
Both approachable and down to earth
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Post by andyloneshark on Jun 26, 2020 11:56:06 GMT
...Um, i think i said something along the lines of how much i loved their early stuff 'Dig That Groove Baby' (is a gloriously silly album)... but also how much i hated hearing 'Nellie The Elephant' for the 'enth time. I think 'Everything Falls Apart' is Hüsker Dü's most overlooked record, for the reasons i have already explained. It is as good as their later better known albums. This is song is just STUNNING!
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 26, 2020 12:05:44 GMT
Andy, Rogue, anyone...
How much did you like Copper Blue?
I loved it then, and still think it sounds magnficent
But I was not a hardcore Hüsker Dü fan, more someone who dipped in an out
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 26, 2020 12:07:02 GMT
I think 'Everything Falls Apart' is Hüsker Dü's most overlooked record, for the reasons i have already explained. It is as good as their later better known albums. This song (Gravity) is just STUNNING! Yes it is!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 12:27:54 GMT
Andy, Rogue, anyone...
How much did you like Copper Blue?
I loved it then, and still think it sounds magnficent
But I was not a hardcore Hüsker Dü fan, more someone who dipped in an out
Not heard much by Sugar to be honest so will have to investigate further.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 12:30:09 GMT
...Um, i think i said something along the lines of how much i loved their early stuff 'Dig That Groove Baby' (is a gloriously silly album)... but also how much i hated hearing 'Nellie The Elephant' for the 'enth time. I think 'Everything Falls Apart' is Hüsker Dü's most overlooked record, for the reasons i have already explained. It is as good as their later better known albums. This is song is just STUNNING! I think I have that Nellie record by the way. My sister bought me it when it was in the charts as she thought it was punk. I recall the b side being a lot better incidently.
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Post by andyloneshark on Jun 26, 2020 12:40:55 GMT
...well compared to the A-Side, it's gotta be better surely! SUGAR? Yes... i am a BIG fan and have all their recordings. By coincidence, i was/still am friends with their bass player David Barbe. I knew him before he joined the band as i fanatically collected all the releases by his bands Mercyland and Buzz Hungry. So when SUGAR came over here to tour i would meet up with him and see them every chance i got. I have kept a scrapbook of all their Music Press form the time.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 26, 2020 13:40:38 GMT
Wow. Great story Andy
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