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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 3, 2020 16:16:49 GMT
According to Wikipedia... UK 82 - 1980s-era punk
UK 82 took the existing punk sound and added faster drumbeats and an aggressive distorted guitar sound.The term UK 82 is taken from the title of a song by The Exploited. Cross-pollination existed between this era of British street punk and American hardcore punk.
The lyrics of UK 82 bands tended to be much darker and more violent than the lyrics of earlier punk bands. They tended to focus on the possibilities of a nuclear holocaust, and other apocalyptic themes, partially due to the military tension of the Cold War atmosphere. The other mainstay of the lyrics of the era was unemployment, and the policies of the Conservative Party government. Lyrics frequently denounced the Conservative leader Margaret Thatcher in the same way that American hardcore punk bands addressed the Ronald Reagan administration.
The three most prominent UK82 bands, according to Ian Glasper, are The Exploited, Discharge, and GBH.
The Exploited were controversial due to their aggressive lyrics and rowdy concerts, and were considered by Glasper to be "cartoon punks".
Glasper wrote: "For many, The Exploited were the quintessential second wave punk band with their senses-searing high-speed outbursts against the system, and wild-eyed frontman Walter 'Wattie' Buchan's archetypal orange mohican." Discharge's early work proved to be enormously influential, providing the blueprint for an entire subgenre. Their later work, however, has been described as moving into heavy metal.Rogue and Zeo and others will know to what extent that is an accurate introduction to the scene Let's discuss all things UK 82
There's even a UK 82 website...
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Post by zeopold on Sept 3, 2020 16:34:45 GMT
I'd venture that Discharge & GBH are, strictly speaking, precursors to this subgenre, in much the same way as the Cockney Rejects were to Oi!
That said, I'm prepared to stand corrected by Roguey or Andy as I imagine their expertise in this field far exceeds mine.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 3, 2020 16:47:47 GMT
I'd venture that Discharge & GBH are, strictly speaking, precursors to this subgenre, in much the same way as the Cockney Rejects were to Oi! That said, I'm prepared to stand corrected by Roguey or Andy as I imagine their expertise in this field far exceeds mine. On that website I linked to in the first post it has The Exploited in their list - but no sign of GBH or Discharge - so I suspect that you correct Zeo I'm sure our resident specialists will be along sometime soon to clarify matters |
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Post by andyloneshark on Sept 3, 2020 17:07:16 GMT
UK 82 Punk, is a terminology that has come along retrospectively... no one refered to it as such at the time. It's very open to interpretation.
The Exploited recorded a song "UK82" on their second album Troops Of Tomorrow released that year, so they are forever now associated with it.
But the truth is, there was all kinds of Punk being released that year... e.g. The Dark released their masterpiece Chemical Warfare, Chron Gen released their classic single Outlaw
Blitz released Voice Of A Generation, Vice Squad released Stand Strong Stand Proud, The Violators released two great singles The Fugitive & Summer Of '81, The Adicts released Sound Of Music
...All these bands sounded totally different and sold alot of records without much interest from the media beyond Sounds Music paper or the odd weekly colour mag.
GBH and Discharge released their debut full length albums that year, both of which got in the national top 40 album charts, so yeah... you could call them UK 82 Punk too
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 3, 2020 17:46:46 GMT
UK 82 Punk, is a terminology that has come along retrospectively... no one refered to it as such at the time. It's very open to interpretation. The Exploited recorded a song "UK82" on their second album Troops Of Tomorrow released that year, so they are forever now associated with it. But the truth is, there was all kinds of Punk being released that year... e.g. The Dark released their masterpiece Chemical Warfare, Chron Gen released their classic single OutlawBlitz released Voice Of A Generation, Vice Squad released Stand Strong Stand Proud, The Violators released two great singles The Fugitive & Summer Of '81, The Adicts released Sound Of Music...All these bands sounded totally different and sold alot of records without much interest from the media beyond Sounds Music paper or the odd weekly colour mag. GBH and Discharge released their debut full length albums that year, both of which got in the national top 40 album charts, so yeah... you could call them UK 82 Punk too Thanks Andy - very helpful and informative |
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Post by zeopold on Sept 3, 2020 17:50:09 GMT
I quit the movement in 81 but was briefly coaxed out of retirement by Minx (who was one of the regulars on Norm's TP) to play in the Dead Heroes, who were influenced by Discharge, Anti Pasti and GBH. They would probably fit the definition. I'm the one without the shocking barnet. www.boredteenagers.co.uk/DEAD_HEROES.htm |
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Post by johnnyoi on Sept 3, 2020 17:58:08 GMT
I always think of uk 82 bands as the more Hardcore ones like GBH,Exploited,Discharge etc but yeah it includes bands such as Blitz, Addicts,Chron Gen, Anti Pasti etc.Bit of a stupid term really as it was just a second wave of Punk that stretched probably 4 years.I quite like a fair bit of this stuff but all in all i prefer the first wave.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 3, 2020 17:58:47 GMT
Minx was lovely - how's she doing?
You've barely changed an inch Zeo, except for sartorially
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Post by zeopold on Sept 3, 2020 18:02:59 GMT
Minx was lovely - how's she doing? She's lived in Australia for 20+ years, runs a flying school. She comes back for the Rebellion festival every year and we have an old punx meet in Winchester beforehand but not this year obvs. |
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Post by andyloneshark on Sept 3, 2020 18:09:15 GMT
I quit the movement in 81 but was briefly coaxed out of retirement by Minx (who was one of the regulars on Norm's TP) to play in the Dead Heroes, who were influenced by Discharge, Anti Pasti and GBH. They would probably fit the definition. I'm the one without the shocking barnet. www.boredteenagers.co.uk/DEAD_HEROES.htmAh... Stringy Jumpers, the height of Punk 'haute couture' - my dear old mum knitted one for me around 1980 that i STILL have.  I finally met Min The Minx at the Rebellion Festival back on 2018. Also met up with Billy, Blitzy Bob and Ger01  |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 3, 2020 18:19:21 GMT
Thanks Zeo, thanks Andy
Great photo
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 21:21:13 GMT
Andy's appraisal is bang on.
No one called it UK 82. I never did and never will.
I never, ever pigeon hole myself when it comes to punk(from any era). If it's good, it's good.
'Troops of Tomorrow' by the Exploited is a great record by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 21:28:43 GMT
This is another brilliant song.
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Post by zeopold on Sept 4, 2020 7:13:29 GMT
'Troops of Tomorrow' by the Exploited is a great record by the way. Some examples of groups that are more punk than the Exploited; The Strokes The Libertines New Order Steps Brotherhood of Man ...I could go on but there are simply not enough hours in the day. |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 4, 2020 7:50:04 GMT
'Troops of Tomorrow' by the Exploited is a great record by the way. Some examples of groups that are more punk than the Exploited; The Strokes The Libertines New Order Steps Brotherhood of Man ...I could go on but there are simply not enough hours in the day. The Exploited were a joke band I'll admit this is only based on seeing them on Top of the Pops from time to time in the 80s I couldn't believe my eyes when I first encountered them - every punk cliche in the book At the time it seemed the game was well and truly up Perhaps I misjudged them though. Back in those days I was prone to Stalinist snap decisions |
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