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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 15, 2020 13:16:13 GMT
Turning to instrumentals of a more Post-Punk flavour, here is one my all time favourites. It goes to prove PiL were SO much more than the 'Johnny Rotten Show' - this sounds improvised, not sure if it's Richard Dudanski on drums, but he puts fills in, on all the right places... I keep meaning to start the PiL thread Thanks Andy for the inspiration Here it is What's yer verdict? Favourite tracks etc. And what better excuse for a bit of Lydon and co storming out of a TV interview... ...and indeed that enjoyable Janet Street Porter and Lydon interview before PiL officially started... |
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Post by andyloneshark on Sept 15, 2020 13:46:42 GMT
Their appearance on the OGWT in 1979 was fantastic. This version of 'Poptones' is so much better than what was on Metal Box.
Martin Atkins drumming is just so subtle compared to Keith's crash'n'bash on the album.
John's vocals on this are so strong.
This was that brief magical period of four equals in the band... sadly that did not last long.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 16:13:59 GMT
I love the first 2 albums and a few sporadic singles but the vast majority of it,especially recently is absolutely awful.
However, fair play to Lydon he was away ahead of everyone back in'78.
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Post by andyloneshark on Sept 15, 2020 16:29:21 GMT
...his ego has got the best of him, too many sychophants surrounding him perhaps
There's some great songs on the third album too, but after Keith Levene left, my interest was not so fanatical.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 15, 2020 16:45:40 GMT
Still plenty to enjoy post-Levene but agree that the first line up was the best
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Post by andyloneshark on Sept 15, 2020 16:58:48 GMT
...yes there is, in between the over produced tosh.
I saw PiL for the second time in the mid 80s, they looked and sounded like some pampered West Coast Mullet Rockers with padded shoulders
Like they had been to the same tailors as A Flock Of Seagulls.
This is a good later song about the flight that would have killed him and Nora if they'd boarded it...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 17:25:31 GMT
...his ego has got the best of him, too many sychophants surrounding him perhaps There's some great songs on the third album too, but after Keith Levene left, my interest was not so fanatical. He still thinks they are some ground breaking band when they are absolutely dreadful. Still, it keeps his real estate ventures going. |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 15, 2020 17:47:46 GMT
I thought Lydon used his butter ad money to fund PiL
Either way, I doubt he's making much money out of PiL these days
When he needs a financial boost he reforms the Pistols for a few lucrative gigs
Nora's wealth must also keep him in teabags and cans of light ale
I've seen PiL a couple of times in the last 5-10 years and, both times, they were great - surprisingly so.
My feelings about Lydon are ambivalent, bordering on negative, these days so I wasn't going as some rabid fanboy, indeed I was quite sceptical. The first time convinced me to go back for a second time.
The only other time I saw PiL was at the Rainbow on Boxing Day in (I think) 1979. It was freezing in the concert hall and a bit dispiriting as far as I remember.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 18:54:44 GMT
I'm not surprised he's not making anything out of PiL he'd be lucky if 5000 saps would buy such pretentious, tuneless drivel.
People who buy pish music out of some warped loyalty. They remind me of those old Stalinists who still think Stalin was a communist just because that's what they've always believed.
Like smoking and voting Labour it's just a bad habit by people who do it because they've always done it.
There a certain autism to him.
I doubt the Pistols will ever reform as Jones can stand Lydon and rightly so.
I think his real estate 'ventures' are worth more than a silly series of adverts he did over 10 years ago.
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Post by stu77 on Sept 15, 2020 18:58:19 GMT
Lydon has gone from hero to zero , so sad.
Unfortunately PIL pretty much peaked with their debut single which to be fair IMHO is one of the best singles ever released.
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Post by stu77 on Sept 15, 2020 18:59:45 GMT
I thought Lydon used his butter ad money to fund PiL Either way, I doubt he's making much money out of PiL these days When he needs a financial boost he reforms the Pistols for a few lucrative gigs Nora's wealth must also keep him in teabags and cans of light ale I've seen PiL a couple of times in the last 5-10 years and, both times, they were great - surprisingly so. My feelings about Lydon are ambivalent, bordering on negative, these days so I wasn't going as some rabid fanboy, indeed I was quite sceptical. The first time convinced me to go back for a second time. The only other time I saw PiL was at the Rainbow on Boxing Day in (I think) 1979. It was freezing in the concert hall and a bit dispiriting as far as I remember. I think they played the Rainbow on both Xmas Day and Boxing Day 1978. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 18:59:46 GMT
Yes absolute brilliant song, no doubt about it👍
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Post by zeopold on Sept 15, 2020 20:50:41 GMT
Rotten's ego did for them despite their early promise
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 21:57:19 GMT
They did songs like this which were a wee bit more commercial but its miles better than the guff that they've done over the last few years.
Maybe they should have stuck with that....
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 16, 2020 7:09:30 GMT
The only other time I saw PiL was at the Rainbow on Boxing Day in (I think) 1979. It was freezing in the concert hall and a bit dispiriting as far as I remember. I think they played the Rainbow on both Xmas Day and Boxing Day 1978. That's my recollection too No way my Mum was letting me go to a gig on Xmas day, plus no public transport on Xmas day back in those days anyway so as a 16 year old I would have had to walk (about 90 mins each way) |
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