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Post by personunknown on Oct 3, 2020 9:17:05 GMT
John would have been eighty years old next week. I wonder where and how he would have fitted into the scheme of things if he had survived up till now.
Unlike McCartney, he only made records when he felt he had something to say, whether personal or political. Maybe he would have put the guitar down and become a counter culture elder statesman? Even though his pronouncements may have been a drop in the ocean, we might have been in a better place than we are now.
In these days of Trump, Farage, Johnson, Putin and a wider incompassionate society, he is sorely missed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 9:22:18 GMT
It's impossible to say but despite his faults he was a good man...or was he?
However, given that most cultural icons get suckedinto the establishment sooner or later who knows?
Perhaps, he could have became a 'Lou Reed'type figure who was essentially sound in that 'I don't give a fuck about recognition'kind of way..
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Post by personunknown on Oct 3, 2020 9:58:37 GMT
Unlike Moon, Barrett, Brian Jones and John Martyn, Lennon would apologise to anyone about his past violent chauvinism. He wrote several songs in penance about his misdemeanors.
He moved from cruel bully to right on peacenik, which stayed with him to his death. Whereas, some like Lydon start off with the best of intentions and then end up where he is now, an amorphous blob in a MAGA t shirt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 10:24:44 GMT
Didn't know that about Lennon.
The others you mention are guilty of some shocking behaviour especially Moon and Barrett.
Thres no doubt that Lennon could have had a comfortable life and went on much safer'rock 'n' roll'route but you could see that he was beyond being rich and famous from the early days of the Beatles.
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Post by AndoII on Oct 4, 2020 3:45:07 GMT
Lennon seemed a decent bloke, and a genuine advocate for peace and unity. His card was marked though, as soon as he took up residence in the US as a peacenik and stated telling them how to behave, as almost a sort of cultural imperialist. The court case he won to avoid deportation pretty much decided it, and he was killed 5 years later.
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Post by smogquixote on Oct 4, 2020 7:19:17 GMT
In an alternative timeline he headlined Glastonbury and edited the lyrics to “Imagine” to be about stopping Brexit.
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Post by Bassy on Oct 4, 2020 8:34:53 GMT
Unlike Moon, Barrett, Brian Jones and John Martyn, Lennon would apologise to anyone about his past violent chauvinism. He wrote several songs in penance about his misdemeanors. He moved from cruel bully to right on peacenik, which stayed with him to his death. Whereas, some like Lydon start off with the best of intentions and then end up where he is now, an amorphous blob in a MAGA t shirt. It's good to see PU acknowledging Lennon's nasty side. He had been a chauvinist and a bully before he "saw the light". He remained viciously sarcastic to the end but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Since he died, Lennon has largely been perceived as an almost Christ-like figure, devoid of faults and casting blinding shafts of the light of peace and love on everybody. This is far from the reality of Lennon, the man. Had he survived, he may have stayed true to his personal philosophies. On the other hand, he may have revealed the evidence of his humanity by drifting gradually towards cynicism and bitterness, as so many others have done.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 24, 2021 7:32:04 GMT
Xmas leftovers eh?
COLD TURKEY. (Ultimate Mix, 2020) - Plastic Ono Band (official music video HD)
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Post by smogquixote on Oct 24, 2021 12:48:46 GMT
Yoko needs to move on he’s been dead over forty years now, build a bridge or download Tinder ffs!
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Post by wardance on Sept 3, 2022 18:55:36 GMT
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Post by stu77 on Nov 18, 2024 2:39:46 GMT
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