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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 20, 2020 14:48:20 GMT
Another film shown on Sky Arts which was new to me I've only watched the beginning of it so far Sex Pistols - There'll Always be an EnglandThe reformed Pistols live on 8 November 2007 at Brixton Academy It's both as cringeworthy and as enjoyable as you'd imagine
The whole thing is on YouTube too...
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 20, 2020 14:49:18 GMT
Set list...
–Vera Lynn There'll Always Be An England –Sex Pistols Pretty Vacant –Sex Pistols Seventeen –Sex Pistols No Feelings –Sex Pistols New York –Sex Pistols Did You No Wrong –Sex Pistols Liar –Sex Pistols Beside The Seaside –Sex Pistols Holidays In The Sun –Sex Pistols Submission –Sex Pistols I'm Not Your Stepping Stone –Sex Pistols No Fun –Sex Pistols Problems –Sex Pistols God Save The Queen –Sex Pistols EMI –Sex Pistols Bodies –Sex Pistols Anarchy In The UK –Vera Lynn End Credits –Sex Pistols Road Runner
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 20, 2020 14:52:38 GMT
I did enjoy this one star review on Amazon...
I bought this DVD on the strenght of the 5 star reviews, but sadly I cannot agree with anything they say. After song three I was stunned at how ugly the whole thing looked and sounded. The shots of the crowd prompted me to think that I was at a BNP rally: the front rows crushed with middle aged wannabes desperately trying to outgurn each other. The playing was standard grade pub rock and with a Lydon who has turned into Albert Steptoe (Albert Steptoe had better vocal range); only bested in the looks department by Paul Cook who could now fit into any episode of Thunderbirds. No guessing which Pistol ate all the pies either. This dvd is a jingoistic mess and I wish I'd never seen it. Thank God I've got all the originals on vinyl and cuttings from NME's of old, that way I can remember it the way it was and was meant to be. So what next for Lydon and crew? The Bus Pass World Tour boxed set with free Complan? Shoot me now.
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Post by stu77 on Oct 20, 2020 15:11:24 GMT
I'm on it, I remember seeing Temple on the stage not long before the band came on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 17:34:35 GMT
I saw this years ago and was entertained by it admittedly.
However, you can tell that Lydon has the curse of bellendism running through his veins even then
They should have left it well alone.
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Post by stu77 on Oct 20, 2020 17:43:34 GMT
Lydon wore a PIL top.
Wanker.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 20, 2020 18:20:21 GMT
Yes, Lydon is a grotesque carricature and cuts a rather pathetic figure
I was never remotely tempted by the concerts - though I know people who went and really loved it.
The England theme, and songs, do seem to foreshadow Brexit and, with the light of hindsight, add another level of awfulness to the spectacle
That said, it's always good to hear the songs and I particularly enjoyed the sight of Glen getting to play the tunes again and appearing to be enjoying himself. To a lesser extent the same can be said of Cook and Jones
It's also interesting to see a smattering of mobile phones but nothing like the sea of devices that would be out and filming if the gig had happened last year.
Finally, Julien Temple really knows how to film and edit this type of thing. It's really well done with loads of audience shots which is always interesting.
Grimly compelling and enjoyable despite the awfulness
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 19:20:12 GMT
Lydon wore a PIL top. Wanker. Between PiL and the Professionals there's no contest. The latter are easily the best band. Wonder what he would have done if Cook and Jones wore Professionals t-shirts?
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 21, 2020 7:19:20 GMT
I wonder how much each member of the Pistols raked in for five nights at Brixton
Given they don't really get on that well it must have been a good few grand
Hard to imagine they'll ever do it again - but who knows?
Tickets were £37.50 which, by modern standards, doesn't feel that outrageous
Brixton academy capacity is 4921
Revenue was, according to my limited maths, £922,687.50 which is a lot but there's also a lot of costs in putting on shows.
I expect PU knows more about this stuff
I'd guess the four Pistols must have been paid £50,000 each at a minimum - maybe Lydon gets a bit more?
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Post by AndoII on Oct 21, 2020 7:36:40 GMT
^Fair enough. They suffered the slings and arrows as pioneers, so it's good the Pistols (other than Rotten) got paid for playing.
Seen it on youtube before, and it's a bit toe-curling for me, being honest. "All your heroes are useless". Too right, John.
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Post by personunknown on Oct 21, 2020 8:51:10 GMT
Biggest gig I've ever put on (with help from others) was 1200 people, so this is way out of my league. But you agree a price with the band's agent and however they split it is between them and nothing to do with you. £37.50 was a reasonable price back then and with a sell out, the promoter would have been able reduce the cost of hiring the venue as the revenue on in house drink sales would be massive.
After paying all and sundry, I used to work on taking 25 to 30% for myself at the end of the night. Some of that money would be put towards the next gig. But you only needed a midweek gig with a second division name and washout weather and you'd be out of pocket.
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