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Post by stu77 on Jan 17, 2021 1:24:05 GMT
This is extraordinary. To me anyway. You have well known record shops making little secret of their dealing in bootleg albums. As someone who was a bit too young for the heyday of bootlegs I'm interested in knowing how easy bootleg records were to track down and what your experience of them was. I bought a few in the 90s (Buzzcocks mainly) I know they are still produced as I occasionally see photos of them on Facebook. They seem to be produced in very limited quantities but often have quite impressive packaging. I've seen quite a few of the old ones on eBay.
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Post by personunknown on Jan 17, 2021 8:58:21 GMT
I contributed to an article on this subject for the Record Collector magazine many moons ago, so I could bore you for days on the subject.
Firstly, it is an offence to knowingly sell bootleg albums in a bricks and mortar retail establishment. However, the chances of you being caught are minimal as Trading Standards are stretched to breaking point trying to stop the sale of fake cigarettes, booze and clothing. I don't sell bootlegs in the shop and I try to dissuade other dealers from bringing them to our record fairs. Jimmy Page of Led Zepp is renowned for visiting fairs and collecting up all his bands bootlegs and walking off with them before challenging the dealer to call the police.
The last lot of unauthorised recordings I dealt with, was a joblot of live in Italy Queen albums. Excellent recordings and well made sleeves, I moved them on by private sale to a Queen fanatic.
The proliferation of bootlegs in vinyl format was early to mid seventies. Some of these are very collectable if from Franco's Spain or Soviet Russia as they were made 'underground' and the penalties if caught were more than a fine and a slap on the wrist.
The weirdest bootleg stuff I have had through the shop: Charles Manson - The Prison Songs Black Sabbath debut, has a picture of the band Rainbow on the cover A Malaysian Elton John Greatest hits with badly translated song titles, The Beach is Back, Hello Yellow Brick Road etc.
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Post by stu77 on Jan 17, 2021 11:55:31 GMT
^^^^^^^ I knew Page is often seen at Record fairs (he was once seen buying the 12" of No One Is Innocent / My Way) I guess we know why now. What a skinflint.
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Post by johnnyoi on Jan 17, 2021 15:18:06 GMT
Can’t remember seeing any in the 70’s funnily enough but did come across a few shops in Great Yarmouth in the 80’s selling them openly
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Post by stu77 on Jan 18, 2021 1:59:21 GMT
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Post by jsm on Jan 18, 2021 2:17:48 GMT
There's a whole book about the birth of the bootleg phenomenon - Bootleg: The Rise & Fall of the Secret Recording History. I've got quite a few bootlegs. They were openly sold in record shops in Sydney in the late 70s, although that might have been second-hand record shops. Ones I have include Sex Pistols, Buzzcocks, Graham Parker and Tom Petty
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Post by stu77 on Jan 18, 2021 3:09:43 GMT
On the BBC radio Rock On interview with Rotten and Vicious they briefly discuss the Spunk bootleg saying they knew who was behind it.
I guess that would be Goodman.
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Post by jsm on Jan 18, 2021 4:16:13 GMT
I've got Spunk, but it was not called that on the Australian version. I also had two bootlegs of concerts in the USA but later sold them because the sound was bad as was the playing, if I remember correctly.
My copy had the Gun Control insert; San Fransisco, 14 Jan 1978.
I can't find the other one. The cover showed a long-haired roadie wearing a t-shirt saying 'This sure ain't the Beach Boys tour', or something similar
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Post by stu77 on Apr 9, 2022 23:42:45 GMT
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Post by doug61 on Apr 10, 2022 13:29:24 GMT
Used to get mine mainly in "Shades" a record shop in St. Annes Court, off Wardour Street past the Marquee (also home to the great sci fi and alternative bookshop "Dark They Were And Golden Eyed") Always loads in stock there. also a record shop in South London had them once you got to know the bloke running the shop. Got the Pistols "Spunk" when it first came out and that was an exciting day getting that one home and on the turntable. Probably got around 20 in my collection.
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Post by personunknown on Apr 10, 2022 14:22:25 GMT
The best boot I ever had was a 1979 live at the Pasedena Civic by Roxy Music, given the title Warped Leatherezz.
Whoever put it together also made a fabulous pastiche of the bands early covers, an elegant semi naked woman reclining in a bathroom with a parrot. The sound must have been straight from the sound desk as it is crystal clear. A double vinyl LP set and disc two is the best tracks from the debut to Stranded years, note perfect. Walks all over the official Viva live album from 1976.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Apr 10, 2022 15:16:29 GMT
The best boot I ever had was a 1979 live at the Pasedena Civic by Roxy Music, given the title Warped Leatherezz. Whoever put it together also made a fabulous pastiche of the bands early covers, an elegant semi naked woman reclining in a bathroom with a parrot. The sound must have been straight from the sound desk as it is crystal clear. A double vinyl LP set and disc two is the best tracks from the debut to Stranded years, note perfect. Walks all over the official Viva live album from 1976. See what you mean PU
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Post by stu77 on Apr 10, 2022 16:34:28 GMT
There seems to be quite a few semi official live recordings knocking about. I have a few, by the Floyd, Clash, Zeppelin and U2. Wonder what the legality of these is.
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Post by personunknown on Apr 10, 2022 16:58:12 GMT
Don't know about U2 or Floyd but Clash boots are widely available. Savage Oi often has Bonds or Tokyo live vinyl. Official suppliers Juno have Amsterdam and Shea broadcasts in their listings.
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Post by doug61 on Apr 11, 2022 16:02:37 GMT
The internet killed the fun of seeking them out, now everything ever recorded is but a click away. I must have burnt about 100 live Dylan gigs to CD. Now putting them in the cloud. Times change quick these days.
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