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Post by doug61 on Feb 28, 2021 12:14:02 GMT
Dunno why I've never read that Doug - really should put that right Who is the old Soho bohemian from the war? Coincidentally I am currently reading Joan Wyndham's wartime diaries "Love Lessons" which is full of her encounters with bohemians during the Blitz. After a near-miss with a German bomb she is keen to lose her viginity. It was chance that Wyndham came to be published. In the 1980s, her younger daughter, Camilla, found the wartime diaries in the attic and, enchanted by their mixture of naivety and loucheness, took them to the publishers William Heinemann. Like her friend Quentin Crisp, Joan relished becoming famous in later life. From the Strange Attractor publishing house who do some great books...
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 28, 2021 13:29:31 GMT
From the Strange Attractor publishing house who do some great books... Thanks How have I never heard of Ironfoot Jack, or indeed Stranger Attractor? I'm v enthusiastic about London novels and memoirs, especially Soho ones
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 28, 2021 13:32:07 GMT
Coincidentally I just finished the Joan Wyndham memoir I mentioned in the Ruts thread... Love Lessons (1985) by Joan Wyndham...
...is a teenage perspective on life in wartime London immediately before and during the Blitz. This is not a typical Blitz memoir, and nor is Joan a typical teenager. She enjoys a sizeable weekly allowance from her mother and so wants for little, even when rationing kicks in, and she has her own artist's studio.
Apparently it was Joan's daughter who convinced her to publish her teenage diaries in the mid 1980s. The diaries give a real sense of immediacy and are full of great detail about life in London at the start of the war. The primary interest lie in the insights into the bohemian crowd Joan gets to know and her gradual surrender to sexual desire as she drifts from her Catholic upbringing.
Unsurprisingly Love Lessons is of it time and so is awash with the era's casual sexism, racism and homophobia. Joan is also unabashed about her preference for "caddish men" who will "knock me around". It's also shocking how her suitors frequently threaten her with rape.
If you're interested in the era, London, or English social history, and can tolerate the diaries of a callow young woman and all that entails, then this is highly recommended. You'll be immersed in a world of teenage uncertainty, artists studios, bohemian parties, memorably pretentious characters, and London bars and cafes. If that gets your attention then dive in as soon as you can. You'll be glad you did.
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Post by doug61 on Feb 28, 2021 15:16:55 GMT
Coincidentally I just finished the Joan Wyndham memoir I mentioned in the Ruts thread... Love Lessons (1985) by Joan Wyndham...
...is a teenage perspective on life in wartime London immediately before and during the Blitz. This is not a typical Blitz memoir, and nor is Joan a typical teenager. She enjoys a sizeable weekly allowance from her mother and so wants for little, even when rationing kicks in, and she has her own artist's studio.
Apparently it was Joan's daughter who convinced her to publish her teenage diaries in the mid 1980s. The diaries give a real sense of immediacy and are full of great detail about life in London at the start of the war. The primary interest lie in the insights into the bohemian crowd Joan gets to know and her gradual surrender to sexual desire as she drifts from her Catholic upbringing.
Unsurprisingly Love Lessons is of it time and so is awash with the era's casual sexism, racism and homophobia. Joan is also unabashed about her preference for "caddish men" who will "knock me around". It's also shocking how her suitors frequently threaten her with rape.
If you're interested in the era, London, or English social history, and can tolerate the diaries of a callow young woman and all that entails, then this is highly recommended. You'll be immersed in a world of teenage uncertainty, artists studios, bohemian parties, memorably pretentious characters, and London bars and cafes. If that gets your attention then dive in as soon as you can. You'll be glad you did.
4/5
This is another good Soho book... www.amazon.co.uk/West-End-Girls-Barbara-Tate/dp/1409120236
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 28, 2021 16:19:55 GMT
Thanks Doug - never heard of West End Girls before you highlighted it Some of my favourite London-centric books include... Roland Camberton - Scamp Roland Camberton - Rain On The Pavements Gerald Kersh - Night and the City Patrick Hamilton - Hangover Square Sumuel Selvon - The Lonely Londoners Alexander Baron - The Lowlife Dog Days in Soho: One Man's Adventures in 1950s Bohemia by Nigel Richardson Bad Penny Blues by Cathi Unsworth Fear and Loathing in Fitzrovia by Paul Willets (Julian Maclaren-Ross biog) Soho In The Fifties by Daniel Farson May Day by John Sommerfield Beautiful Idiots and Brilliant Lunatics: A Sideways Look at Twentieth-Century London by Rob Baker London E1 by Robert Poole Adrift in Soho by Colin Wilson Soho by Keith Waterhouse Battersea Girl: Tracing a London Life by Martin Knight Jumpin' Jack Flash by Keiron Pim I could go on all day
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 28, 2021 17:30:11 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 28, 2021 20:09:29 GMT
I've ordered a copy of the Ironfoot Jack book and also the West End Girls one too
Can't wait to get stuck in
Thanks Doug
And, talking of Ironfoot Jack, he crops up at 5 minutes 30 seconds in this little film but it's well worth watching the whole thing...
Some of the coffee bars shown include: The 2Is, the French, the Macabre, Le Grande, Stockpot, Sam Widges, Melbray, Universal, La Roca, Freight Train, El Toro, Picasso, Las Vegas, Moka Bar, and more.
Look at Life - Coffee Bar, 1959
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Mar 1, 2021 8:21:01 GMT
I've ordered a copy of the Ironfoot Jack book and also the West End Girls one too
Can't wait to get stuck in
Thanks Doug
And, talking of Ironfoot Jack, he crops up at 5 minutes 30 seconds in this little film but it's well worth watching the whole thing... Some of the coffee bars shown include: The 2Is, the French, the Macabre, Le Grande, Stockpot, Sam Widges, Melbray, Universal, La Roca, Freight Train, El Toro, Picasso, Las Vegas, Moka Bar, and more.
Look at Life - Coffee Bar, 1959You've probably seen the classic Soho Goes Gay vid before however I mention it because our man Ironfoot Jack is there for all to see at 13 seconds.... Soho Goes Gay (1955)
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Post by doug61 on Mar 1, 2021 13:35:17 GMT
Thanks Doug - never heard of West End Girls before you highlighted it Some of my favourite London-centric books include... Roland Camberton - Scamp Roland Camberton - Rain On The Pavements Gerald Kersh - Night and the City Patrick Hamilton - Hangover Square Sumuel Selvon - The Lonely Londoners Alexander Baron - The Lowlife Dog Days in Soho: One Man's Adventures in 1950s Bohemia by Nigel Richardson Bad Penny Blues by Cathi Unsworth Fear and Loathing in Fitzrovia by Paul Willets (Julian Maclaren-Ross biog) Soho In The Fifties by Daniel Farson May Day by John Sommerfield Beautiful Idiots and Brilliant Lunatics: A Sideways Look at Twentieth-Century London by Rob Baker London E1 by Robert Poole Adrift in Soho by Colin Wilson Soho by Keith Waterhouse Battersea Girl: Tracing a London Life by Martin Knight Jumpin' Jack Flash by Keiron Pim I could go on all day Thanks, read some of those, will check out the rest.
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Post by johnnyoi on Mar 1, 2021 19:44:55 GMT
Some of those books are out of my price range.One that isn't is London Calling by Barry Miles.Anybody read that?
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Mar 1, 2021 20:42:15 GMT
Some of those books are out of my price range.One that isn't is London Calling by Barry Miles.Anybody read that? Not yet but only heard good things about it Thanks for the reminder
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Post by doug61 on Mar 2, 2021 14:05:10 GMT
Thanks Doug - never heard of West End Girls before you highlighted it Some of my favourite London-centric books include... Roland Camberton - Scamp Roland Camberton - Rain On The Pavements Gerald Kersh - Night and the City Patrick Hamilton - Hangover Square Sumuel Selvon - The Lonely Londoners Alexander Baron - The Lowlife Dog Days in Soho: One Man's Adventures in 1950s Bohemia by Nigel Richardson Bad Penny Blues by Cathi Unsworth Fear and Loathing in Fitzrovia by Paul Willets (Julian Maclaren-Ross biog) Soho In The Fifties by Daniel Farson May Day by John Sommerfield Beautiful Idiots and Brilliant Lunatics: A Sideways Look at Twentieth-Century London by Rob Baker London E1 by Robert Poole Adrift in Soho by Colin Wilson Soho by Keith Waterhouse Battersea Girl: Tracing a London Life by Martin Knight Jumpin' Jack Flash by Keiron Pim I could go on all day Thanks, read some of those, will check out the rest. Interesting read... www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/30/fiction
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Mar 2, 2021 15:19:59 GMT
Yeah, those Roland Camberton books are well worth a read - repulished a few years back with the lovely original John Minton covers Here's a review I wrote of Scamp...Scamp is another of those classic London novels from the 1950s that evokes Julian Maclaren-Ross, Patrick Hamilton, Norman Collins, Samuel Selvon and so on. It makes a brilliant companion piece to Adrift in Soho by Colin Wilson. The back streets of Soho and the West End are brought vividly to life and, whilst the plot is slightly inconsequential, that doesn't make the book any less enjoyable. Every page provides an opportunity to experience late 1940s bohemian London and, as I think we can all agree, that is a wonderful thing. Julian Maclaren-Ross makes a few appearances as "Angus Sternforth Simms", who is usually to be found in The Corney Arms (a thinly disguised version of his home-from-home The Wheatsheaf pub). Indeed the sections of Scamp that take place in The Corney Arms could have come straight out of Paul Willetts's biography of Julian Maclaren-Ross "Fear and Loathing in Fitzrovia". Interestingly, and despite his appearance (or perhaps because of), Julian Maclaren-Ross was particularly scathing about this book in his review of it for Times Literary Supplement on 10 November 1950... "The book is written from the standpoint of the "bum": that bearded and corduroyed figure who may be seen crouching over a half of bitter in the corner of a Bloomsbury "pub"; it is ostensibly concerned with the rise and fall of a short-lived literary review, but Mr. Camberton, who appears to be devoid of any narrative gift, makes this an excuse for dragging in disconnectedly and to little apparent purpose a series of thinly disguised local or literary celebrities."Despite Julian Maclaren-Ross's negativity, the book won the 1951 Somerset Maugham Award (given to authors under the age of 35) and I can quite see why. The book's great strength is its evocation of late 1940's London and in particular the areas of Bloomsbury, Soho, Kings Cross, Fitzrovia, Fleet Street, and the multifarious and compelling bohemian characters that populate this world. The book was out of print for many years, until publishers Five Leaves, through their New London Editions imprint, republished it in 2010 (they've also republished two books by Alexander Baron which I have on my shelf and will be reading soon). I love books like this and am delighted that more of these titles are getting reprinted. There's a beauty and a purity in the shabby streets and seedy cafes and the lives lived on the margins. Not only that, but as the story went on the more quietly profound it became as Camberton muses on maturity and the loss of youth, and how being poor and bohemian loses its allure after a time. Sadly Roland Camberton only wrote one other book before giving up writing, Rain On The Pavements, and that has also been republished by Five Leaves. Whilst about halfway through this book, and filled with enthusiasm for Roland Camberton, I got hold of a copy of Rain On The Pavements yesterday which I will read sometime soon. It's such a shame that there's only two books to read, still we should savour these two novels and be grateful to Five Leaves for bringing them back into print. Both novels have been reprinted complete with their original cover art by John Minton which are both beautiful artworks and really compliment the contents and enhance the reading experience Here's a review I wrote of Rain On The Pavements....Having very recently read Scamp, the first novel by Roland Camberton, and filled by enthusiasm for that book, I got hold of this, his only one other book before giving up writing. Rain On The Pavements, first published in 1951, was - like Scamp - also republished by Five Leaves (via their New London Editions imprint) in 2010, again complete with the book's original cover art by John Minton - a beautiful artwork that really compliments the contents and enhances the whole experience. Roland Camberton, born Henry Cohen, came from a Jewish family in Hackney where he attended Hackney Downs School in the 1930s. He later anglicised his name to so his strictly religious family remained unaware that he was writing novels. Both Rain On The Pavements and Scamp, are based on Roland Camberton's life. David Hirsch, the main character, is probably a self-portrait, and the book details his life growing up in a fairly orthodox Jewish family in Hackney throughout the 1920s and 1930s. Each chapter takes a portion of David's life from early childhood to gaining a scholarship to University. Each chapter introduces new characters who were, in the main, significant people in David's life, these include young uncles, school friends, teachers etc. and describes David's experiences around the East End, at school, and beyond into Soho. As with Scamp, a big part of the pleasure of this utterly enjoyable book, is the wealth of social history and detail. It all rings so true and is clearly based on personal experience. Little things, like for instance, David and a friend in Cable Street watching two of their bigger, braver school friends fighting with fascist black shirts, the book is full of this kind of detail. Hackney is the constant throughout this wonderful book, its streets and characters providing the backdrop to many of David's experiences. As he matures, he is increasingly drawn towards the bohemian world of Soho, however throughout all his experiences what is clear is that he can never really escape from his home borough and all that it signifies.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Mar 29, 2021 15:30:01 GMT
Dunno why I've never read that Doug - really should put that right Who is the old Soho bohemian from the war? Coincidentally I am currently reading Joan Wyndham's wartime diaries "Love Lessons" which is full of her encounters with bohemians during the Blitz. After a near-miss with a German bomb she is keen to lose her viginity. It was chance that Wyndham came to be published. In the 1980s, her younger daughter, Camilla, found the wartime diaries in the attic and, enchanted by their mixture of naivety and loucheness, took them to the publishers William Heinemann. Like her friend Quentin Crisp, Joan relished becoming famous in later life. From the Strange Attractor publishing house who do some great books... I've nearly finished the Ironfoot Jack book Interesting read Would be better with a bit more editing but it's a fascinating time and old Jack got about a bit Have you read the Mark Benney biography that gets mentioned quite a bit? "What Rough Beast?" Long out of print and seems quite hard to source Benney seems to have written a few interesting looking books...
Low Company was an immediate success. George Orwell, one of the toughest critics when it came to working class literature of the time, called it “one of the best lumpenproletarian books of our time.” The book was so well done, Newsweek informed its readers, that “the publishers feel impelled to swear it isn’t a literary hoax.” Every major paper and magazine gave it enthusiastic reviews, and Peter Davies encouraged his protégé to try his hand at fiction as well.
More about Benney and his work here...
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Post by doug61 on Mar 30, 2021 12:37:56 GMT
From the Strange Attractor publishing house who do some great books... I've nearly finished the Ironfoot Jack book Interesting read Would be better with a bit more editing but it's a fascinating time and old Jack got about a bit Have you read the Mark Benney biography that gets mentioned quite a bit? "What Rough Beast?" Long out of print and seems quite hard to source Benney seems to have written a few interesting looking books...
Low Company was an immediate success. George Orwell, one of the toughest critics when it came to working class literature of the time, called it “one of the best lumpenproletarian books of our time.” The book was so well done, Newsweek informed its readers, that “the publishers feel impelled to swear it isn’t a literary hoax.” Every major paper and magazine gave it enthusiastic reviews, and Peter Davies encouraged his protégé to try his hand at fiction as well.
More about Benney and his work here...
No, never read that one. Although Jack's book is unfocused and all over the place I found it rather touching as it dealt with on a daily basis dealing with "the problem of existence". He seemed rather a sweet bullshitter and chancer, a pre war Arthur Daley almost. You can see the destruction of a simpler way of life as the years pass and more and more council regulations stop travelling market sellers and entertainers from plying a trade. Even from the 1960's and 70's so much has been outlawed or made impossible. When did you last see a rag and bone man or a proper old style Tramp?
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