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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2022 19:15:42 GMT
Any independence/national liberation movement has both radical elements and conservative elements. It's inevitable post independence.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2022 10:42:09 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 23, 2022 12:24:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2022 12:50:01 GMT
A clear logical argument although tactically the SNP seem to be running out of options....however, the need for a long strategy is essential. They only have to look to Ireland but they won't. Considering New Labour want to copper fasten the 'idiocy'of Brexit, the next election should be seen as a referendum on both. However, the British State and it's two extreme right wing parties, New Labour and the Tories know how to provaricate. Again, look to Ireland.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2022 15:26:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 9:06:55 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 24, 2022 17:36:58 GMT
Can you expand on that rogue?
What should the SNP be doing instead?
Are you suggesting a war of independence?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2022 22:55:04 GMT
Can you expand on that rogue? What should the SNP be doing instead? Are you suggesting a war of independence? If you read Bernard Ponsonby's article, he states using the next British General Election as a de facto referendum on Independence is a 'risky' strategy as in order to win it they would need at least 50% of the vote to make it a majority. It seems to me that they've reached an impasse. The time to do this would have been in 2015 after they gave Labour a total drubbing. This then would have gathered steam post Brexit. Taking the British government to court was a predictable tactic with a predictable result. There's no way the British government would allow a second vote given that the Independence and Unionist arguments are so polarised and allowing a referendum is a 'reserved matter'. Also basing a campaign purely on Independence leaves them open to attack from other parties including New Labour who will be focusing on the'cost of living crisis'. The Irish analogy is an important one. When Sinn Fein won the Northern Elections earlier this year their manifesto was based on positive change and opposition to the 'Cost of Living crisis-no mention of a United Ireland or the bigger Republican objective. It worked perfectly for them. The DUP were made to look redundant as the only 'argument' they had was the re-impostion of the Unionist veto dressed up in the guise of the 'Northern Ireland Protocol'. This infuriated liberal unionists who jumped ship to the Alliance Party. A constituency which Sinn Fein has it sights on. SF are well versed in the political school of hard knocks and play the long game. In 25 years they've went from a minor political party within the nationalist community to the major force in Irish politics on the verge of taking power in the South and latterly the North. As for a War of Independence in Scotland? I had a wee chuckle at that one. It only exists in the history books.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 25, 2022 8:37:54 GMT
When Sinn Fein won the Northern Elections earlier this year their manifesto was based on positive change and opposition to the 'Cost of Living crisis-no mention of a United Ireland or the bigger Republican objective. It worked perfectly for them. The DUP were made to look redundant as the only 'argument' they had was the re-impostion of the Unionist veto dressed up in the guise of the 'Northern Ireland Protocol'. Right Gotcha Agree that would be their best strategy It looks as though Nicola Sturgeon's time as leader could be over soon, so perhaps a new leader might change tack?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2022 8:59:55 GMT
In conservative media circles this is being bandied about.
Sturgeon is a capable leader. It's the politics. I don't like Swinney and Blackford, they lack a certain dynamic.
Mhari Black would be my choice. Working class, socialist and a brilliant orator.
However, they lack the political experience of SF politicians like Conor Murphy, Mary Lou MacDonald,Gerry Kelly, Pearse Doherty and Michelle O'Neill.
All very formidable people.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2022 12:50:14 GMT
OH dear, Starmer and Anas lag behind as support for independence grows.. news.stv.tv/
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Dec 7, 2022 13:05:57 GMT
No surprise - I'd vote the same way if I still lived there
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2022 14:57:31 GMT
And this is just after the Tories kicking into touch any future referendum AND New Labour's plan for a better Scotland😄
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2022 15:49:59 GMT
Stephen Flynn in the british parliament this afternoon.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 15, 2023 8:24:59 GMT
Wish more journalists would take this approach with slippery politicians who don’t answer questions….
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