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Post by stu77 on Jun 19, 2021 23:23:23 GMT
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Post by stu77 on Jun 19, 2021 23:34:23 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 20, 2021 8:05:56 GMT
I've read so many great books about football - off the top of my head here's a few that come to mind...
Build a Bonfire: How Football Fans United to Save Brighton and Hove Albion by Stephen North and Paul Hodson (BHAFC's fight to survive)
Fever Pitch by Nick Hornby (Arsenal FC)
Different Class: Football, Fashion and Funk - The Story of Laurie Cunningham by Dermot Kavanagh
The Glory Game by Hunter Davies (Tottenham Hotspur FC)
All Played Out by Pete Davies (World Cup Italia 90)
Left Foot Forward by Garry Nelson (Journeyman footballer memoir)
The Damned Utd by David Peace (Leeds United FC)
A Season with Verona by Tim Parks (Hellas Verona FC)
Provided You Don't Kiss Me by Duncan Hamilton (Brian Clough)
Awaydays by Kevin Sampson (Hoolie lit)
Steaming In by Colin Ward (Arsenal hooligan - probably the very first of this type of book. Should be better known)
The Bromley Boys: The True Story of Supporting the Worst Football Team in Britain by Dave Roberts (Bromley FC - 1970s)
Home and Away: Round Britain in Search of Non-League Football Nirvana by Dave Roberts (Bromley FC - 2016)
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Post by personunknown on Jun 20, 2021 8:42:50 GMT
Provided You Don't Kiss Me is a good read but it really divided opinion in Nottingham. Some fans thought it was too critical of Clough. There was an incident in which a display table of the book in a local store was trashed.
It was published three years after his death making it not possible for the great man to refute some of the occurrences mentioned. Some ex players have come out and criticised Hamilton's stretching and distorting the actual truth.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 20, 2021 9:11:27 GMT
Provided You Don't Kiss Me is a good read but it really divided opinion in Nottingham. Some fans thought it was too critical of Clough. There was an incident in which a display table of the book in a local store was trashed. It was published three years after his death making it not possible for the great man to refute some of the occurrences mentioned. Some ex players have come out and criticised Hamilton's stretching and distorting the actual truth. Interesting - thanks PU I was recommended it by a friend who is a lifelong Forest fan & who writes for one of the fanzines (Bandy & Shinty). I meet him once a week for beers so will ask him about the controversy next week
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Post by personunknown on Jun 20, 2021 9:50:40 GMT
Don't know Bandy and Shinty, used to be Brian and The Tricky Tree fanzines when I lived there. Never read Awaydays but it was one of the few decent hooligan firm films made. Great 79/80 soundtrack and featured a young Stephen Graham as the gangs leader, think the team they followed was Tranmere?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2021 10:12:07 GMT
Read literally hundreds over the years mostly about Celtic but I always thought Managing My Life by Alex Ferguson was and should be read by everyone regardless of whether you like him or even football.
Also 'Jock Stein' by Archie McPherson, the authoratative book about the great man himself.
I rarely read books about soccer hooligans as I don't believe in lining the pockets of criminals but 'Celtic Soccer Crew' by John O'Kane is worth a look due to the political climate of the time ie AFA, Red Action, the James Connolly Commemoration march in Edinburgh in the early 90's whereby both Celtic and Hibs boys were involved in 'alleviating'the BNP/Loyalist counter demonstrators.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 20, 2021 10:59:21 GMT
Don't know Bandy and Shinty, used to be Brian and The Tricky Tree fanzines when I lived there. Never read Awaydays but it was one of the few decent hooligan firm films made. Great 79/80 soundtrack and featured a young Stephen Graham as the gangs leader, think the team they followed was Tranmere? Here ya go PU bandyandshinty.wordpress.com/I don't know much about it It might have been a bit more recent Here's an article by my pal on Ian Bowyer that you might enjoy... bandyandshinty.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/ian-bowyer-on-the-wing/Never read Awaydays but it was one of the few decent hooligan firm films made. Great 79/80 soundtrack and featured a young Stephen Graham as the gangs leader, think the team they followed was Tranmere? Yes Tranmere The same music vibe is in the book Kevin Sampson was manager of The Farm but don't let that put you off He was also famously sacked from NME by Editor Neil Spencer for reviewing a Sex Gang Children concert at a Liverpool club that had been burned down on the night the band had been due to appear Back to Forest, there's a separate thread to be started for Best Films about Football but, for my money, it's gots to be I Believe In Miracles... I Believe In Miracles trailer
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Post by Billy Idle on Jun 20, 2021 13:32:12 GMT
What's good about I Believe In Miracles, apart from the brilliant interviews and clips, is the music
Agree with all of the books suggestions
Another great read is Only a Game by Eamon Dunphy
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Post by stu77 on Jun 20, 2021 14:27:18 GMT
Steak Diana Ross written by a 70s Notts County player
One hoolie book I enjoyed was one written by a Stoke hoolie.
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Post by doug61 on Jun 22, 2021 15:10:19 GMT
Bought "only a game" when it came out. It was really the first of the inside football books and got in in what passed for the Millwall club shop back then. Here's a few I'd recommend.... There's a sequal too, "left foot in the grave" well worth reading too. Biased again on this one but a great read as are most of Calvins books..... Depressing as hell but must be read to see how unfit for purpose FIFA was, is and always will be.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 22, 2021 15:48:41 GMT
Fully concur with Garry Nelson - but not read the follow up
Those other two look like must reads
Thanks Doug
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Post by stu77 on Jun 22, 2021 16:04:15 GMT
I have John Sitton's book A Little Knowledge Is a Dangerous Thing. He's the guy who appeared in a notorious documentary on Orient in the 90s. Notorious mainly for his dressing room tirades.
He started out at Arsenal as an apprentice in the 70s then went to Chelsea before moving on to Millwall.
Recommended.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 22, 2021 16:23:51 GMT
That doc is a classic - from memory, trailing three nil at half time, his team talk was "you cunts got us into this, you cunts get us out of it"
He's a classic exponent of the hairdryer treatment
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 22, 2021 16:28:02 GMT
Here he is
Inviting the team to have it out afterwards "...bring him, and bring your dinner"
Old school epitomised, gets better as it goes along...
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