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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 26, 2022 17:16:59 GMT
Ukraine war: Russia admits mobilisation errors, amid growing public oppositionwww.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63036985 The Russian authorities say 300,000 army reservists will be called - but media reports suggest the figure could be much higher
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Post by zeopold on Nov 15, 2022 21:51:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2022 22:53:00 GMT
^Own goal it would seem.
The media were salivating at the prospect of this 'escalation'.
What a humiliating climbdown.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 2, 2023 20:26:55 GMT
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Post by stu77 on Jan 28, 2023 16:00:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 22:07:51 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 8, 2023 13:19:39 GMT
Certainly a Putin apologist... rogerwaters.com/berliner/....and coming out with some pretty out there stuff which he is happy to post on his own website He thinks he's a free thinker and everyone else has been brainwashed Riiiight He certainly doesn't take the media view of the Ukraine War which is rammed down our throats. Which is what ? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 14:51:42 GMT
He certainly doesn't take the media view of the Ukraine War which is rammed down our throats. Which is what ? That the West is helping Ukraine out the kindness of their own hearts? The West are interfering in the sovereignty of another country by proxy. They won't tell you that however. Putin is right about one thing-the West have no right to lecture anyone about 'sovereign' countries being invaded. They are arming rogue states across the world like Saudi Arabia and Israel and have been for decades leading to the mass murder of thousands of people. My own view is that despite the permanency of this war, both Russia and Ukraine backed by the West will do a deal when it suits them-the alternative is escalation. What you have, you hold, always the basis for negotiations for 'peace'. |
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Post by Billy Idle on Feb 8, 2023 14:57:34 GMT
Whos sovereignty are hte West interfering with ?
Russia ?
Ukraine ?
What's your suggestion ? Just let Putin get on with it unopposed ?
Imagine if that had been the world 's response when Germany invaded Poland
No argument that the arms industry is wrong tho
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2023 15:09:22 GMT
Whos sovereignty are hte West interfering with ? Russia ? Ukraine ? What's your suggestion ? Just let Putin get on with it unopposed ? Imagine if that had been the world 's response when Germany invaded Poland No argument that the arms industry is wrong tho Ukraine's. They are doing it for themselves not the Ukrainian people. Putin will 'get on' with it regardless of what the West does. They know this. A proxy war to extend NATO's influence? Partly true. Control of resources going into Europe, defintely. Do you seriously believe that Putin will invade Europe? Where is the evidence to support this fantasy? As for Britain helping Poland in World War 2? What did they do in 1944/45 when Stalin paused his offensive in the East when pro British Poles were getting anilihated by the Nazi's? Fuck all. |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 9, 2023 11:23:03 GMT
Volodymyr Zelensky’s choice to make the UK his second foreign visit since the start of the war speaks to the relationship that Boris Johnson and his successors have built with the Ukrainian leader
The UK is the second largest donor of military equipment to Ukraine. Britain has given nearly £2.3bn in support to Ukraine so far, and that figure is expected to increase
Rishi Sunak has announced that the UK will start training Ukrainian marines, as well as Ukraine's pilots to fly more sophisticated jets. But Zelensky was really in the UK to ask for the jets themselves. The Defence Secretary, Ben Wallace, is investigating whether jets could be part of a “long-term solution”. The problems seem to be that we don’t have enough jets to give, they might not be the right ones for the Ukrainians and handing them over risks provoking Russia
Despite being slightly overshadowed by Zelensky’s visit, Keir Starmer announced two new policies on Ukraine at PMQs
First he called for Vladimir Putin to be brought in front of the Hague for crimes committed during the war. Second, he said that the reconstruction of Ukraine should be paid for with sanctioned Russian assets
Labour may not be in government now, but the war may go on for long after the next general election
63 per cent of the public support sending fighter jets to Ukraine
A pattern has emerged over the past year of Western nations crossing previously immovable red lines. The question of whether British jets will be flying over Ukraine anytime soon, therefore, quickly becomes a matter of practicality
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 12:12:58 GMT
I wonder if the 63% of the people who support sending fighter jets to Ukraine would be so eager to fight over there given the opportunity....🤔
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 10, 2023 9:22:49 GMT
Seriously fucked up... Anatoly Salmin, a convicted thief and murderer, is home from prison years ahead of schedule, his reward for volunteering for a suicide mission in Russia’s war in Ukraine – and then managing to survive. Hundreds of convicts recruited into the ranks of Wagner, a private military company tied to the businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin, have been killed or severely wounded in Ukraine, where the mercenaries have been tasked with some of Russia’s most desperate campaigns. But a video released last month showed several dozen former convicts – among them murderers, drug dealers and domestic abusers – now heading to their home towns in northern Russia, supposedly having earned pardons by surviving six months in Wagner’s ranks in Ukraine. In interviews, those who knew Salmin said they feared running into the same man who once terrorised their home town and may now have been made untouchable by his association with Prigozhin, one of Russia’s most notorious figures. Rest here: www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/10/wagner-convict-soldiers-return-from-ukraine-russia-mercenary-group |
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Post by doug61 on Feb 10, 2023 13:00:42 GMT
We've slipped from supporting Ukraine as a sovereign nation to what can only be described as a proxy war with a man who is obviously unhinged and leaving him no plausible "out". Regardless of the rights and wrongs, it seems that little real thought is being given to the possible outcome.
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