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Post by zeopold on Oct 10, 2020 10:57:18 GMT
During my life, there have only been two General Elections where I felt that I was voting positively FOR something, rather than simply AGAINST the Tories ; Kinnock in 1992 and Corbyn last year. So, it's back to the depressing reality of voting Labour with no genuine enthusiasm or belief that anything important will change for the better should they win. The prospect of slightly more competently and humanely managed Capitalism hardly gets the heart racing, does it ? Until our electoral system is reformed (don't hold your breath) voting tactically or for the 'least worst' option is the best we can do. I've always voted Lib Dem in my affluent Hampshire constituency cos voting Labour is pointless. We actually had a Lib Dem MP for a while, until he got caught bumming rent boys, then the tories got back in  |
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Post by Bassy on Oct 10, 2020 15:08:49 GMT
During my life, there have only been two General Elections where I felt that I was voting positively FOR something, rather than simply AGAINST the Tories ; Kinnock in 1992 and Corbyn last year. So, it's back to the depressing reality of voting Labour with no genuine enthusiasm or belief that anything important will change for the better should they win. The prospect of slightly more competently and humanely managed Capitalism hardly gets the heart racing, does it ? Until our electoral system is reformed (don't hold your breath) voting tactically or for the 'least worst' option is the best we can do. I'm a supporter of Proportional Representation. No party in my lifetime has achieved anywhere near 51% of the total vote, yet a number of (Tory) governments have undertaken radical programmes despite having no genuine proportionate mandate to do so. If no party gains a majority under PR, then the electorate get what they voted for. |
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Post by zeopold on Oct 10, 2020 18:13:37 GMT
Until our electoral system is reformed (don't hold your breath) voting tactically or for the 'least worst' option is the best we can do. I'm a supporter of Proportional Representation. You'll get no arguments against that from this end. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 8:40:36 GMT
It's never going to happen and that's the point.
Labour and The Tories want it that way so they can spoon fed the electorate varying levels of the same shite.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 11, 2020 10:53:46 GMT
It's never going to happen and that's the point. Labour and The Tories want it that way so they can spoon fed the electorate varying levels of the same shite. It's certainly not in their interests to change the system |
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Post by zeopold on Oct 29, 2020 21:11:21 GMT
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Post by AndoII on Oct 30, 2020 7:08:55 GMT
Poor old Jeremy. Tried to go against the Zionists, and got labeled and predictably dismissed as "anti-Semitic". Any criticism of Israel (Rothschild-Land) gets the same treatment from the Zionists and their backers in the UK and US, plus the Anti Defamation League (Mossad-lite). Everyone dances to the tune of the banking dynasty that holds the reins of the Bank of England, US Federal Reserve, controls the price of gold, diamonds, money-markets and usury the world over. etc., etc.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 30, 2020 7:27:19 GMT
Labour responsible for three breaches of the Equality Act: Political interference in anti-Semitism complaints Failure to provide adequate training to those handling anti-Semitism complaints Harassment, including the use of anti-Semitic tropes and suggesting that complaints of anti-Semitism were fake or smears The EHRC found evidence of 23 instances of "inappropriate involvement" by Mr Corbyn's office.
The Labour party founded the EHRC and has been at the forefront of fighting racism since its foundation
Labour is only the second political party after the BNP to be investigated by the body
Corbyn's statement:
“One antisemite is one too many, but the scale of the problem was also dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents inside and outside the party, as well as by much of the media.
“That combination hurt Jewish people and must never be repeated. My sincere hope is that relations with Jewish communities can be rebuilt and those fears overcome. While I do not accept all of its findings, I trust its recommendations will be swiftly implemented to help move on from this period.”
It was the bit about being "dramatically overstated for political reasons by our opponents" that seems to have caused his suspension
He may well be right but it was not the time or the place to make the point
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Post by zeopold on Oct 30, 2020 8:06:32 GMT
Poor old Jeremy. Tried to go against the Zionists, and got labeled and predictably dismissed as "anti-Semitic". Any criticism of Israel (Rothschild-Land) gets the same treatment from the Zionists and their backers in the UK and US, plus the Anti Defamation League (Mossad-lite). Everyone dances to the tune of the banking dynasty that holds the reins of the Bank of England, US Federal Reserve, controls the price of gold, diamonds, money-markets and usury the world over. etc., etc. I think it's safe to assume that gefilte fish is not on the menu during Passover at Ando's gaff |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 8:46:03 GMT
Labour civil war beckons, brilliant.👍👌
In his quest for revenge that dick Starmer has scored a spectacular own goal.
I take it back, great decision making this oaf the leader.
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Post by zeopold on Oct 30, 2020 8:51:41 GMT
Labour civil war beckons, brilliant.👍👌 Agreed. Here's hoping the gulag worshippers sling their hook and lose their deposits somewhere else 👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 10:54:24 GMT
Considering the amount of money through membership that Corbyn has brought into the party hopefully it will be financially as well as being politically damaging👍
Yippee🙂
Considering also the influence of Corbyn supporters in both Momentum and the Unions isn't just going to go away I'm also looking forward to a long and bloody civil war with a permanent split coming at the end of it.
Bloody fantastic👍
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Post by personunknown on Oct 30, 2020 11:17:19 GMT
They don't seem to learn from history do they? Gaitskell v Bevan, SDP v Benn, Kinnock v Militant. It's becoming as interesting as Rochdale v Accrington Stanley on a wet Wednesday night in November.
Still if it keeps the Covid scaremongering off the main headlines, let it continue.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 11:46:51 GMT
The definition of anti semitism by the IHRA is flawed.
Apparently, you're anti semitic if you oppose Israel's right to 'self determination (I.e the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in their own country after 1948)when both Britain and America helped Zionism create Israel for financial and strategic reasons.
Is this the definition that Starmer based his attacks on Corbyn on?
You have to think where Starmer is coming from here.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 30, 2020 11:56:15 GMT
Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is independent of the Labour Party
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