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Post by stu77 on Jul 12, 2023 19:06:57 GMT
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Jul 12, 2023 19:09:43 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 12, 2023 19:09:43 GMT
So the Scum have wrecked someone's life for no reason just to aim a dig at the BBC. What a shock. 100% This is about smearing the BBC and casting them in a bad light From what I can glean the BBC have done everything that a company would reasonably do in the circumstances. Murdoch wants the BBC out of the picture to help his own TV interests |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 13, 2023 9:16:56 GMT
Interesting that the police have stopped investigating due to no crime having taken place All highly inappropriate though - perhaps his batte with depressions explains his ill judged decision making?  |
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Post by personunknown on Jul 13, 2023 10:52:22 GMT
I do feel for people suffering from depression, I had my dark time after my eighteen years of marriage ended. But am I correct in thinking Edwards has gone into a private mental health clinic? Up here in the North East you get cannot get treatment (apart from pills) on the NHS. CAMHS is oversubscribed tenfold for young people even just trying to find a professional to talk to.
We often have incidents up here of people threatening to jump off Valley Road Bridge or the Brunswick Centre, just so they can get into a mental health unit.
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Post by doug61 on Jul 14, 2023 11:14:23 GMT
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Post by andyloneshark on Jul 14, 2023 13:46:16 GMT
This was posted recently by Sean from The Soup Dragons...
Here is a story about The Sun.
I tasted their vileness once.
The Soup Dragons just came off months of supporting INXS in U.S and I stayed in touch with Michael who became a friend.
When he died a few years later it was roughly around the time of the first album by my band The High Fidelity.
Our PR said the Scottish Sun wanted to do a piece about the new band.
I was against it but we were struggling to be heard in a fast changing digital World and it was decided to do an interview about ‘music’ for the ‘music’ page would reach millions.
Yes I know we shouldn’t have.
The journalist asked me one … just one question about Michael to which I replied I’m sorry but his death really upset me as he was one of the loveliest men I met in the music industry.
That was it.
Next few days the piece came out with literally paragraphs of stuff I did not say about Hutchence.
Even a headline.
Completely made up but cleverly written to not be libel.
We tried to get a lawyer involved but was told there was no way we could afford to take on a lawyer against The Scum.
I was advised to bury my head and try let it be ignored.
It caused me huge anxiety and depression for years.
Couldn’t hold my head up thinking people thought I said those things against someone I really respected.
To this day it still upsets me.
The fact we live in a country controlled by a newspaper who feels it’s right to literally write lies for money and destroy those around them is a joke.
Liverpool did it.
Time the rest of the UK did it too.
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Jul 16, 2023 12:39:09 GMT
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Post by stu77 on Jul 16, 2023 12:39:09 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 16, 2023 13:49:08 GMT
Very interesting And all good questions Good to see the BBC pushing back on this story given the shifting sands Not excusing HE's behaviour, which was, at best, inappropriate, but perhaps nowhere near what the Sun first alleged |
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Post by politician2 on Jul 16, 2023 17:34:35 GMT
The oddest contribution to the debate is probably this entry from Arwa Mahdawi in The Guardian, in which she argues that tabloid newspapers are simultaneously too keen and not keen enough to name people involved in these kinds of scandals: www.theguardian.com/global/commentisfree/2023/jul/14/british-media-tabloids-huw-edwards-bbcFrom what I can make out from her rambling, she's arguing that people she likes (covering Huw Edwards, as he's associated with the BBC) should be able to get away with anything they like without being exposed in the media, whereas people she doesn't like (primarily successful entrepreneurs) should have no right to sue for libel when they're falsely accused of something in the media. |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 16, 2023 19:00:53 GMT
All read very coherently to me - and your analysis, and final conclusion is wide of the mark
Her primary purpose is to contrast reporting in the UK and the US, and specifically the legal context that gives rise to the differences
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Post by politician2 on Jul 16, 2023 19:36:22 GMT
All read very coherently to me - and your analysis, and final conclusion is wide of the mark Her primary purpose is to contrast reporting in the UK and the US, and specifically the legal context that gives rise to the differences Certainly not the way I perceived it, and she appears to be mixing up her arguments. It can't simultaneously be the case that libel cases are too easy to win in the UK and that tabloids can abuse people like Edwards with impunity. If it's so easy to win a libel case and the allegations about him are unsupportable, why doesn't he sue? |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 16, 2023 19:49:53 GMT
I suspect he probably will sue
Based on his wife's statement, he's in no fit state to sue and won't be for quite some time
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Post by Billy Idle on Jul 18, 2023 7:57:30 GMT
Edwards should sue . As always the Sun know exactly what theyre doing and take every opportunity to please Murdoch by smearing the beeb . They push it as close to the limit of legality as they can .
They are hypocritical scum .
That Guardian article makes sense to me Politicain .
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 18, 2023 8:34:01 GMT
Interesting how this story is not making front page headlines in the right wing tabloids... GB News Star Dan Wootton Unmasked in Cash-for-Sexual Images Catfishing ScandalGB News presenter and MailOnline columnist Dan Wootton hid behind fake online identities to trick and bribe scores of men into revealing compromising sexual material, Byline Times can reveal in the first part of a three-year special investigation.
The 40-year-old broadcaster and self-styled voice against ‘woke’ culture – whose show Dan Wootton Tonight is the biggest ratings winner on the UK’s fourth-most watched news channel – targeted journalistic colleagues, friends and members of the public for at least 10 years.
Byline Times has extensive evidence to show that, between June 2008 and 2018, Wootton – who is gay – posed as a fictitious showbusiness agent called “Martin Branning” to offer sums of up to £30,000 “tax free” to his targets, many of whom were heterosexual men.
Among them are a very senior executive at Rupert Murdoch’s News UK alongside at least six other staff at The Sun newspaper – one with close links to News UK CEO Rebekah Brooks – friends, Facebook associates and users of the dating apps Grindr and Gaydar.
Two of the targets made criminal complaints to Scotland Yard without knowing the real identity of their tormentor with detectives aware of the activities of Branning – whose name is a portmanteau of EastEnders characters Martin Fowler and Max Branning – since 2019.Rest here... bylinetimes.com/2023/07/17/gb-news-star-dan-wootton-unmasked-in-cash-for-sexual-images-catfishing-scandal/Examples of the hate filled bile he writes for the Mail... www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?sel=site&searchPhrase=Dan+Wootton |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 18, 2023 8:40:33 GMT
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