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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 15:00:47 GMT
Hey pal.
I've had plenty of debates on here with lots of different types over the years including the likes of Politician, who has no interest in punk music.
Surprisingly, I've learnt to live with his presence on here, even though his opinions are morally repugnant.
The only person who ever provokes anything is you with your right wing politics.
Prior to your posting on here, debate was straight talking but cordial
Right from the start with your anti Irish rubbish on a discussion about Shane McGowan about Gerry Adams, it's as if the Irish peace process never happened.
Also, your right wing bullshit about repatriation.
You can wallow in your own reaction but as I have said to you I will challenge you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 15:10:17 GMT
I've always paid my taxes in the UK. who do you want to win? a) Russia b) Ukraine It's OK to dodge if you lack the courage to answer. Ukraine has to win for the security of all Sovereign States. Problem is that Putin has backed himself firmly into a corner by banking on the West allowing him to get away with a Crimea 2.0. Now his only "out" would be for Ukraine to allow him those Donbas areas and Ukraine would never allow that now and that's without the rebuilding costs that Russia should have to pay that must by now be in the region of 750 billion dollars. And if you gave him the Donbas areas that would never be the end of it, he'd just wait another few years and do it again, Crimea showed he is a man who's word can not be taken seriously. Given he has said that he will never recognise Ukraine as an Independent nation and that Russia has also invaded and set up small autonomous areas in other Sovereign States it's clear that he is involved in an attempt to rebuild the Soviet Union as a legacy for himself. For anyone who tries to make ridiculous comparisons between ourselves and Russia, you only have to ask which Country is the one that refuses to allow their people to see independent reporting on the Television and Internet. Provide evidence that Putin is going to invade anywhere else. They're struggling to hold the ground they already have. The narrative for proper discussion has been seriously curtailed. RT should never have been taken off the air. Only extremist right wing Brits like you believe selective sovereignty.
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Post by doug61 on Feb 11, 2023 17:29:06 GMT
Hey pal. I've had plenty of debates on here with lots of different types over the years including the likes of Politician, who has no interest in punk music. Surprisingly, I've learnt to live with his presence on here, even though his opinions are morally repugnant. The only person who ever provokes anything is you with your right wing politics. Prior to your posting on here, debate was straight talking but cordial Right from the start with your anti Irish rubbish on a discussion about Shane McGowan about Gerry Adams, it's as if the Irish peace process never happened. Also, your right wing bullshit about repatriation. You can wallow in your own reaction but as I have said to you I will challenge you. As I say, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, mine is that people who blow up innocent people and animals are cowardly cunts. I'm funny like that.
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Post by doug61 on Feb 11, 2023 17:32:17 GMT
Ukraine has to win for the security of all Sovereign States. Problem is that Putin has backed himself firmly into a corner by banking on the West allowing him to get away with a Crimea 2.0. Now his only "out" would be for Ukraine to allow him those Donbas areas and Ukraine would never allow that now and that's without the rebuilding costs that Russia should have to pay that must by now be in the region of 750 billion dollars. And if you gave him the Donbas areas that would never be the end of it, he'd just wait another few years and do it again, Crimea showed he is a man who's word can not be taken seriously. Given he has said that he will never recognise Ukraine as an Independent nation and that Russia has also invaded and set up small autonomous areas in other Sovereign States it's clear that he is involved in an attempt to rebuild the Soviet Union as a legacy for himself. For anyone who tries to make ridiculous comparisons between ourselves and Russia, you only have to ask which Country is the one that refuses to allow their people to see independent reporting on the Television and Internet. Provide evidence that Putin is going to invade anywhere else. They're struggling to hold the ground they already have. The narrative for proper discussion has been seriously curtailed. RT should never have been taken off the air. Only extremist right wing Brits like you believe selective sovereignty. You would have been one of those cowardly appeasers before WW2, wouldn't you, whining that Hitler wouldn't be invading anywhere else, after all he pwomised, didn't he the nice man. Why don't you tell it to the people in Ukraine being bombed to shit.
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Post by zeopold on Feb 11, 2023 19:18:54 GMT
Let's wait for Zeo to confirm if he paid tax. I already did, but our Roguey's not much good at listening when he's got the bit between his teeth
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Post by zeopold on Feb 11, 2023 19:21:27 GMT
If Roguey really wants to help Putin set the workers free he should apply to join the Wagner group, I hear they're not too fussy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 19:47:46 GMT
Provide evidence that Putin is going to invade anywhere else. They're struggling to hold the ground they already have. The narrative for proper discussion has been seriously curtailed. RT should never have been taken off the air. Only extremist right wing Brits like you believe selective sovereignty. You would have been one of those cowardly appeasers before WW2, wouldn't you, whining that Hitler wouldn't be invading anywhere else, after all he pwomised, didn't he the nice man. Why don't you tell it to the people in Ukraine being bombed to shit. I think the people of Ukraine and Russia would be more afraid of omnipotent British nazis like you. At least the Russian/Ukrainian people defeated Hitler. The British in WW2 were strategically irrelevant to the war. Again, I ask you provide the evidence of your claim of Ukrainian War dead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 19:49:02 GMT
Let's wait for Zeo to confirm if he paid tax. I already did, but our Roguey's not much good at listening when he's got the bit between his teeth You're a good guy but you just stray into silly unnecessary arguments. Peace manπ
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 19:58:36 GMT
Hey pal. I've had plenty of debates on here with lots of different types over the years including the likes of Politician, who has no interest in punk music. Surprisingly, I've learnt to live with his presence on here, even though his opinions are morally repugnant. The only person who ever provokes anything is you with your right wing politics. Prior to your posting on here, debate was straight talking but cordial Right from the start with your anti Irish rubbish on a discussion about Shane McGowan about Gerry Adams, it's as if the Irish peace process never happened. Also, your right wing bullshit about repatriation. You can wallow in your own reaction but as I have said to you I will challenge you. As I say, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, mine is that people who blow up innocent people and animals are cowardly cunts. I'm funny like that. So what you're trying to talk about is Irish politics in that less than subtle bigotry you have. It's rich coming from a New Labour supporter who supports forcible repatriation of refugees. I'll discuss this with you any time on here. Yes, you are a funny ignoramus but I'll forgive you. Let the debate commence.
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Post by Billy Idle on Feb 11, 2023 20:24:38 GMT
All popping off on the floyd thread eh ?
I like you rogue but you are maybe a little confrontational sometimes ?
I guess we 're all guilty of that sometimes , we are all wedded to our positions and the ego feels under attack when people disagree
whats so funny bout peace , love and understanding ?
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Post by zeopold on Feb 11, 2023 20:31:51 GMT
I already did, but our Roguey's not much good at listening when he's got the bit between his teeth you just stray into silly unnecessary arguments Especially when the prospect of victory looks promising.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 22:49:46 GMT
All popping off on the floyd thread eh ? I like you rogue but you are maybe a little confrontational sometimes ? I guess we 're all guilty of that sometimes , we are all wedded to our positions and the ego feels under attack when people disagree whats so funny bout peace , love and understanding ? Tell me, if this isn't about honest debate...why bother? This forum(and the old one) which for many years, has debated with a white supremacist seems to have a blindspot for someone who is a democratic socialist. Bizarre.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 22:51:15 GMT
you just stray into silly unnecessary arguments Especially when the prospect of victory looks promising. What would be your set list if Generation X reformed live?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 23:08:23 GMT
We dug out DSOTM tonight and had a listen again.π
It's a shame that Waters wants to denigrate its legacy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 23:16:30 GMT
Hey pal. I've had plenty of debates on here with lots of different types over the years including the likes of Politician, who has no interest in punk music. Surprisingly, I've learnt to live with his presence on here, even though his opinions are morally repugnant. The only person who ever provokes anything is you with your right wing politics. Prior to your posting on here, debate was straight talking but cordial Right from the start with your anti Irish rubbish on a discussion about Shane McGowan about Gerry Adams, it's as if the Irish peace process never happened. Also, your right wing bullshit about repatriation. You can wallow in your own reaction but as I have said to you I will challenge you. As I say, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, mine is that people who blow up innocent people and animals are cowardly cunts. I'm funny like that. If this a reference to the IRA , I challenge you to talk about these 'cowardly cunts'.
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