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Post by politician2 on Sept 19, 2020 19:38:12 GMT
However, bands like Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple and Led Zep remain a blind spot on the periphery of my musical vision. It's no longer an issue of dogma, simply that the bits I've heard haven't been to my tastes and I've only got a certain amount of time left on this degraded sphere to listen to music. All four are remarkably good bands, to my ears. If you want to explore Floyd, I'd start with side two of Animals, which is to my mind their best album. It captures Floyd's response to punk – and what a response it is. "Pigs (Three Different Ones)" is extremely spiky, both musically and lyrically, and showcases Roger Waters at his most misanthropic. Even the Sex Pistols wouldn't have directly addressed Mary Whitehouse with lyrics like "you fucked-up old hag", but she knew better than to attempt a libel suit against people with the financial resources of Pink Floyd. |
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Post by zeopold on Sept 19, 2020 19:45:59 GMT
However, bands like Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple and Led Zep remain a blind spot on the periphery of my musical vision. It's no longer an issue of dogma, simply that the bits I've heard haven't been to my tastes and I've only got a certain amount of time left on this degraded sphere to listen to music. ... Animals, which is to my mind their best album... It's their only post-Syd set I can bear to listen to, but nothing beats 'PATGOD' |
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Post by politician2 on Sept 19, 2020 19:50:48 GMT
My Floyd top five, in descending order, would probably be Animals, Wish You Were Here (a stunning album, and nearly a tie with Animals), Piper, A Saucerful Of Secrets and Meddle. It's a shame that they're most widely known for Dark Side Of The Moon and The Wall – both contain some excellent material but are nowhere near as consistent as their best albums.
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Post by zeopold on Sept 19, 2020 19:59:24 GMT
My Floyd top five, in descending order, would probably be Animals, Wish You Were Here (a stunning album, and nearly a tie with Animals), Piper, A Saucerful Of Secrets and Meddle. It's a shame that they're most widely known for Dark Side Of The Moon and The Wall – both contain some excellent material but are nowhere near as consistent as their best albums. Syd was the magic ingredient in the Floyd. Take away Syd and all that remains is noodling and boredom. |
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Post by politician2 on Sept 19, 2020 20:06:04 GMT
I wouldn't say that. I think Floyd made half-a-dozen consistently superb albums post-Syd, plus a couple of others that are frequently excellent. In fact, their only really mediocre albums to my ears are the the studio disc of Ummagumma (aimless solo noodling), Obscured By Clouds (mediocre film soundtrack), The Final Cut (effectively Roger Waters solo and more a singer/songwriter album than a Floyd one), A Momentary Lapse of Reason (effectively Dave Gilmour solo, and sounds more like eighties Floyd copyists than Floyd themselves) and The Division Bell (has the classic Floyd sound but no classic Floyd songs).
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 20, 2020 6:46:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 9:27:59 GMT
I would agree with most of Politician's assessment.
'Animals' is stunning as is'Meddle' then we get'A Momentary Lapse of Reason' which verges on soft rock in places.
Gilmour was not a great writer on his own but a great collaborator.
His own worst enemy as he concedes is that he's lazy when it comes to writing.
Whereas Waters is stubborn, tunnel visioned almost egotistical when it came to his vision of the band.
Probably a good man but narcissistic and destructive.
Barrett was too unstable to be really talented.
A nasty man. His consumption of drugs masked a deeper malady.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 20, 2020 10:11:46 GMT
My Floyd top five, in descending order, would probably be Animals, Wish You Were Here (a stunning album, and nearly a tie with Animals), Piper, A Saucerful Of Secrets and Meddle. It's a shame that they're most widely known for Dark Side Of The Moon and The Wall – both contain some excellent material but are nowhere near as consistent as their best albums. I've listened to every one of their albums and, ultimately concluded that.... Floyd post-Syd are just not for me I like the odd track - Shine on you Crazy Diamond, The Great Gig In The Sky, Comfortably Numb, Another Brick In The Wall But, to be quite honest, if I never heard any of those tunes, or indeed anything they've ever released again it would not remotely bother me They're just a bit worthy and boring to my ears It's one part of the whole Year Zero agenda that I can get behind |
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Post by andyloneshark on Sept 20, 2020 10:52:20 GMT
The album A Saucerful Of Secrets and the compilation Relics are a great snapshot of the era where Pink Floyd are moving on from their beginnings with Syd.
I love this...
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Post by zeopold on Sept 20, 2020 11:02:36 GMT
It's one part of the whole Year Zero agenda that I can get behind  |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 20, 2020 11:17:24 GMT
The album A Saucerful Of Secrets and the compilation Relics are a great snapshot of the era where Pink Floyd are moving on from their beginnings with Syd. I love this... That is a good song Andy - thanks |
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Post by smogquixote on Sept 20, 2020 13:06:48 GMT
I saw a Rodger Waters live in concert the same day England played Colombia in the world up knockouts, he belted out “Wish You Were Here” with a giant inflatable pig guided by drones flying around the place and the fat cunt reminded me kept on tapping me the on the shoulder saying which penalties had went in and which had missed.
My best days are behind me and they certainly aren’t that great.
Edit: it was one of to the best show I’ve ever went to and will be happy to send iCloud links to anybody who wants to see my footage of it.
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Post by smogquixote on Sept 20, 2020 13:08:25 GMT
Thanks you politician2 for opening this thread, the fact it happened been opened sooner reflects poorly on all of us |
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Post by stu77 on Sept 20, 2020 16:58:21 GMT
I saw a Rodger Waters live in concert the same day England played Colombia in the world up knockouts, he belted out “Wish You Were Here” with a giant inflatable pig guided by drones flying around the place and the fat cunt reminded me kept on tapping me the on the shoulder saying which penalties had went in and which had missed. My best days are behind me and they certainly aren’t that great. Edit: it was one of to the best show I’ve ever went to and will be happy to send iCloud links to anybody who wants to see my footage of it. I was at that too. I had intended to avoid the score. I love most of Pink Floyd's output. So ironic that they were being lambasted in a year when Waters was so disgusted with performer / fan alienation that he spat on an audience member. And Animals is arguably more nihilistic than most punk. |
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Post by stu77 on Sept 20, 2020 17:07:41 GMT
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