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Post by smogquixote on Sept 20, 2020 17:30:20 GMT
I saw a Rodger Waters live in concert the same day England played Colombia in the world up knockouts, he belted out “Wish You Were Here” with a giant inflatable pig guided by drones flying around the place and the fat cunt reminded me kept on tapping me the on the shoulder saying which penalties had went in and which had missed. My best days are behind me and they certainly aren’t that great. Edit: it was one of to the best show I’ve ever went to and will be happy to send iCloud links to anybody who wants to see my footage of it. I was at that too. I had intended to avoid the score. I love most of Pink Floyd's output. So ironic that they were being lambasted in a year when Waters was so disgusted with performer / fan alienation that he spat on an audience member. And Animals is arguably more nihilistic than most punk. I found it much funnier when I was sent to buy some merch and it was literally £80 or £90 for a tour hoodie after he’d taken such a vociferous stance against capitalism and “the system”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 20:45:28 GMT
Just watched the fairly recent 'Us and Them'concert by Roger Waters from 2019.
Seen similar types of concerts from Waters before but I still enjoy them.
Ok he isn't the best singer in the world but he always tries to juxtapose his own stuff and the Floyd back catalogue and contextualize it with the modern world.
Always worth a look with a few cans👍
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Post by oldpunk on Oct 4, 2020 19:15:44 GMT
one of those bands ive alway hated. but picked a copy of dark side of the moon from a charity shop. stuck it into the cd player in the car and played the crap out of it. grew on me awee bit but nowt special about it.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 12, 2021 15:28:25 GMT
Probably one of the most significant albums of 1977? Pink Floyd-Animals In terms of sales? I'm not a fan so don't see the significance
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 17:09:08 GMT
No it was culturally and musically significant.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 12, 2021 17:25:02 GMT
No it was culturally and musically significant. Yeah, I suppose so It's not an album I really see mentioned these days - unlike many others that came out that year, which makes me wonder if any significance was that enduring. The Wall feels far more significant to me
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 10:49:03 GMT
No it was culturally and musically significant. Yeah, I suppose so It's not an album I really see mentioned these days - unlike many others that came out that year, which makes me wonder if any significance was that enduring. The Wall feels far more significant to me Considering it was released in the maelstom of punk when Floyd were supposed to have shrivelled up and blown away it's a remarkable statement and record. Truth to be told, it's a lot, lot better than some of the punk records of the day.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 14, 2021 11:41:07 GMT
Considering it was released in the maelstom of punk when Floyd were supposed to have shrivelled up and blown away it's a remarkable statement and record. Truth to be told, it's a lot, lot better than some of the punk records of the day. I'm not sure anyone thought Floyd had shrivelled up and blown away - far from it They were the enemy though - symbolising the bloated distant supergroups who could only be seen in huge arenas with an expensive ticket price
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 11:47:09 GMT
Considering they were the antithesis of punk a lot of people would have liked to have seen them 'blown'away.
However, theres no way that you could have put them in the same bracket as the prog rockers as they weren't a pretentious prog rock group(they were only pretentious when Barrett was at the helm writing his drivel).
'Animals' is Waters' clever reaction to punk and politically is in a much better place than that bellend Lydon who proves that punk could be as conservative as prog rock.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 14, 2021 11:50:33 GMT
I don't really know much about them Rogue
Never enjoyed their post Barrett music except the odd track here and there
I'm your polar opposite, to my ears the Barrett years have some interesting and quirky pop tunes and after he got booted out they just turned into a boring hippy group for stoners.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 11:53:03 GMT
They were better without Barrett who was just a liability.
Some of the best music in the world has been written by 'hippy stoners'.
In fact without the counter culture there would have been no punk anyway.😎👍
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 14, 2021 12:38:35 GMT
I love the counterculture - love reading about it, and love much of what came out it. Early Floyd were a big part of that. Not sure Floyd post-Barrett had much, if anything, in common with the counterculture
I'm intrigued by your comment that "some of the best music in the world has been written by 'hippy stoners'" - what are examples of this?
Barrett was indeed a liability by the time they booted him out but, prior to that, he was the main writer and someone with the ability to write a hook
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 14:58:49 GMT
I love the counterculture - love reading about it, and love much of what came out it. Early Floyd were a big part of that. Not sure Floyd post-Barrett had much, if anything, in common with the counterculture I'm intrigued by your comment that "some of the best music in the world has been written by 'hippy stoners'" - what are examples of this? Barrett was indeed a liability by the time they booted him out but, prior to that, he was the main writer and someone with the ability to write a hook Even though they became rich rock stars they still retained a political ethos of sorts. I mean again if you look at the counter culture even bands like the Doors, Jefferson Airplane, Hendrix etc were mainstream expressions of it-much in the same way that the Clash, Damned, etc were mainstream expressions of punk.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 15:01:05 GMT
Incidently, I thought that my comments on 'Animals' were better served in the other thread about 1977 albums as at the height of punk Floyd released which many consider their best album.
An interesting juxtaposition for the thread I thought.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Feb 14, 2021 15:22:09 GMT
Even though they became rich rock stars they still retained a political ethos of sorts. What was political about Animals? I only know it very superficially Incidently, I thought that my comments on 'Animals' were better served in the other thread about 1977 albums as at the height of punk Floyd released which many consider their best album. An interesting juxtaposition for the thread I thought. Your original comment is still on the thread - and I agree, the original comment is about what else was happening in 1977 and fits better with that discussion, perhaps also some of what I moved too. It's tricky
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