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Oct 17, 2020 8:23:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 8:23:47 GMT
This thread is supposed to be about The Adverts, me old mate. Start a thread about racism if you want to continue the conversation.
On second thoughts, no. As the great Australian comedian Mo McCackie once said 'Never argue with a mug!'
However, send me a message if you want to question my Aboriginality. I will not discuss my family history in detail on what is an open public platform.
Who are you to tell anyone what to post and where? It was you who posted a condescending cartoon when everyone was posting about the Adverts. Just like the obscure backwater bands you post about, nobody has heard of Mo McCackie or whoever you keep droning on about in that quaint Australian nationalist tone you have. Why would anyone be interested in debating your real or imagined aboriginal ancestry on here?You really have a self inflated opinion of yourself. Hey pal the only mug is you if you think racism is irrelevant just now. Just look at the racist cesspit of a country that you currently live in and are so proud of. Shell 67...now there was a real Australian👍👍👍
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Oct 17, 2020 12:19:06 GMT
Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 17, 2020 12:19:06 GMT
I've moved this post into a new thread about racism
After mulling it over I decided not to delete it
I will delete future posts which are overly personal or contain insults directed at other members
Please stay respectful and courteous - and keep discussions about emotive topics objective and factual
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Oct 17, 2020 12:25:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 12:25:29 GMT
I've moved this post into a new thread about racism After mulling it over I decided not to delete it I will delete future posts which are overly personal or contain insults directed at other members Please stay respectful and courteous - and keep discussions about emotive topics objective and factual Does that include members calling other posters 'mugs'? Point out where where I insulted our antipodean chum?
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Oct 17, 2020 12:28:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 12:28:09 GMT
I'll be be happy to discuss racism here however that means you should moderate fairly despite your affinity to some of your own favourite musicians.
Agreed?
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Oct 17, 2020 12:36:33 GMT
Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 17, 2020 12:36:33 GMT
Does that include members calling other posters 'mugs'? Yes - from here on in any posts that I deem to be too personal I'll delete I'll be be happy to discuss racism here however that means you should moderate fairly despite your affinity to some of your own favourite musicians. Agreed? I'll do my best I'm keen to avoid unnecessary conflict so let's see how it goes I would not be surprised if there's little appetite for a discussion, but let's see
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Oct 17, 2020 14:43:10 GMT
Post by zeopold on Oct 17, 2020 14:43:10 GMT
Cripes! JSM has triggered Roguey big time
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 14:45:36 GMT
I'm an experienced debater but that other poster was the one who started with personal insults.
You'll also find that I didn't take him up on his offer of so called 'private debate'.
Why would I? why would anyone? It's a message board ffs.
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Oct 17, 2020 14:53:09 GMT
Post by zeopold on Oct 17, 2020 14:53:09 GMT
I'm staying well out of this. It looks set to go nuclear and I have no wish to be caught in the crossfire
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Oct 17, 2020 15:13:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 15:13:04 GMT
I think it's more likely to fizzle out like a soggy match.
I will always challenge racism.
Some people might have faint hearts but I will always defend that belief that racism is an absolutely shocking way for humanity.
So I await any response.
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Oct 17, 2020 16:26:27 GMT
Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 17, 2020 16:26:27 GMT
No one here is going to be disagree that racism is wrong and should be challenged The disagreements we have are about what constitutes racism, who is or is not a racist, and which political parties are racist. Your definitions, rogue, tend to be much more hardline than other people. Please let's not rehash old discussions, which tend to be repetitive, boring and circular. We all know where we stand. Back to racism more generally, and having watched the beginning of the White Riot doc, I wonder what triggered Eric Clapton's extraordinary speech in Birmingham which was the ultimate catalyst for the formation of Rock Against Racism? He subsequently apologised and talked about his self disgust... canoe.com/entertainment/music/eric-clapton-disgusted-by-past-racist-outburstHe blames the booze.... In an interview with BBC Radio 2 on Tuesday, the rocker, who has been sober for three decades and is now a leading backer of Alcoholics Anonymous, candidly described his battle with addiction.
“For at least 20 years I was a basket case, and that is putting it lightly,” he said. “I drank more than you can imagine, a Special Brew (extra-strength lager) with vodka.
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Oct 17, 2020 17:00:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 17:00:17 GMT
Again, your impartially as a moderator before a debate must be called into question?
What the fuck does 'hardline' mean. How do you define what is hardline?
Hitler getting defeated in WW2?!
How can someones opinions ever get a fair hearing?
Does that preclude militant anti fascism/ anti racism?
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 17, 2020 17:29:49 GMT
I don't want to have to moderate, and hope not to have to do it very often
I will only moderate when I deem a post too personal, discourteous or disrespectful - beyond that you can (pretty much) say what you like so long as it's not illegal
I perceive some of your views as hardline. What can I say? (e.g. Labour are a racist party or the vast majority of first wave punks are racist)
I don't know excatly what you mean by militant anti fascism/ anti racism - but assume you can express those views
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Post by zeopold on Oct 17, 2020 19:14:45 GMT
Eric Clapton's extraordinary speech in Birmingham On the US political forum where I've posted since 2002 my signature phrase in my profile is Clapton's legendary words: 'I used to be into dope, now I'm into racism. It's much heavier, man'
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Oct 18, 2020 23:00:38 GMT
Post by jsm on Oct 18, 2020 23:00:38 GMT
This thread is supposed to be about The Adverts, me old mate. Start a thread about racism if you want to continue the conversation.
On second thoughts, no. As the great Australian comedian Mo McCackie once said 'Never argue with a mug!'
However, send me a message if you want to question my Aboriginality. I will not discuss my family history in detail on what is an open public platform.
Who are you to tell anyone what to post and where? It was you who posted a condescending cartoon when everyone was posting about the Adverts. Just like the obscure backwater bands you post about, nobody has heard of Mo McCackie or whoever you keep droning on about in that quaint Australian nationalist tone you have. Why would anyone be interested in debating your real or imagined aboriginal ancestry on here?You really have a self inflated opinion of yourself. Hey pal the only mug is you if you think racism is irrelevant just now. Just look at the racist cesspit of a country that you currently live in and are so proud of. Shell 67...now there was a real Australian👍👍👍 Dear Rogue,
You have misrepresented nearly everything that was said or done in the other thread. Or anywhere else, for that matter. About the only honest thing you say is to praise Shell. He doesn't use that name anymore, by the way.
Luv and Piece
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Oct 19, 2020 12:22:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2020 12:22:46 GMT
Jsm
You posted on a music thread a flippant cartoon attacking anti racists.
The moderator started a 'racism' thread to discuss this.
I don't see how this misrepresents anything.
The floor is now yours.
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