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Post by Lord Emsworth on Nov 20, 2020 13:14:29 GMT
They're not really ubiquitous though
Just a few fanatics who appear more numerous than they are
Just as few muslims have any extremist tendencies
It's just you hear about them more
Those subscriber numbers are probably the extent of their support - and most of them have probably forgotten they subscribed
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Nov 20, 2020 13:17:14 GMT
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Post by personunknown on Nov 20, 2020 13:17:14 GMT
The most insidious one I've come across is a Brit called Paul Joseph Watson. As you say Smoggy, one of those that start off with memes of triggered students (usually women) and then moves gradually and deliberately into ultra right territory. It's very cleverly done and no doubt lures young men into a dangerous, downward spiral.
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Nov 20, 2020 13:35:58 GMT
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Post by smogquixote on Nov 20, 2020 13:35:58 GMT
The most insidious one I've come across is a Brit called Paul Joseph Watson. As you say Smoggy, one of those that start off with memes of triggered students (usually women) and then moves gradually and deliberately into ultra right territory. It's very cleverly done and no doubt lures young men into a dangerous, downward spiral. I almost posted him as well but I’ve got three assignments due, I’m writing words in the wrong places lol! Yes, alt-right Youtuber, InfoWars reporter and Trump shill PJW is probably one of the tamer examples I can think of. He’s got almost two million Youtube subscribers and 1.2 millions twitter followers. I first encountered him in 2015-2016 when he was rinsing hysterical anti-Trumpers, he’s also totally clapped like the others. He actually had a Twitter meltdown at Lauren Southern when she announced she was becoming a “centrist” lol!
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Post by smogquixote on Nov 20, 2020 13:39:46 GMT
They're not really ubiquitous though Just a few fanatics who appear more numerous than they are Just as few muslims have any extremist tendencies It's just you hear about them more Those subscriber numbers are probably the extent of their support - and most of them have probably forgotten they subscribed “Mainstream” would be a better word for it. It’s staggering the amount of exposure and engagement these people get. Usually the only difference between them and your garden-variety skinhead is that they’ve pirated a copy of Sony Vegas Pro and they’re totally dishonest about their beliefs. Sort of indicative of a larger problem that people thoroughly enjoy their content and support these people, essentially having the same ideology as white nationalists but not liking the term “white nationalist”.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 0:15:10 GMT
It's patently obvious that Antifa aren't up to the task of defeating racism and fascism.
Hence the proliferation of all these right wing groups and sentiments which are becoming as 'normal' as the autumnal leaves falling.
Dangerous times.
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Post by stu77 on Nov 21, 2020 0:54:19 GMT
The alt right see Trump and right wing YouTubers like Condell, PJW, and their ilk as gateway to the far right. Then their often Zionist backers (like Rebel Media) suddenly lose interest in them when they turn on shills like Yaxley-Lennon or go too far. eg any criticism of Israel. People like Malkin are a hair's breadth away from embracing white nationalism (despite not being white) and the Republican Party is increasingly seen as a white nationalist party. Trump's attempted coup is to me an incitement to mass shootings of leftists and nonwhites. If you tell your 70m supporters that the election is stolen how can you guarantee that one of them won't lose it.
Is that too paranoid?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2020 1:09:13 GMT
It's well beyond para fascist groups in the US, thats never surprised me.
However, the political terrain has been supplanted as far as I can see in England.
The white working class are now the constituency of the right wing and the Labour Party are the constituency of the middle class liberal professionals(like Nige,Zeo to make a few examples on here).
My point is that Antifa are not only being out politicised but out violenced.
This will continue until they are defeated.
They lack a serious political command structure which is serious in inflicting real damage on all our enemies.
They are too disparate and unorganised.
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Nov 21, 2020 2:10:59 GMT
Post by AndoII on Nov 21, 2020 2:10:59 GMT
The alt right see Trump and right wing YouTubers like Condell, PJW, and their ilk as gateway to the far right. Then their often Zionist backers (like Rebel Media) suddenly lose interest in them when they turn on shills like Yaxley-Lennon or go too far. eg any criticism of Israel. People like Malkin are a hair's breadth away from embracing white nationalism (despite not being white) and the Republican Party is increasingly seen as a white nationalist party. Trump's attempted coup is to me an incitement to mass shootings of leftists and nonwhites. If you tell your 70m supporters that the election is stolen how can you guarantee that one of them won't lose it. Is that too paranoid? Divide and rule 1.0
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Post by stu77 on Jul 22, 2022 3:59:11 GMT
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Post by smogquixote on Jul 24, 2022 11:05:26 GMT
He’s a complete scam artist
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Post by zeopold on Aug 15, 2022 11:22:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 21:42:09 GMT
Death threats go with the territory when it comes to anti fascism but they're very rarely enacted.
The fascists and racists always go for easy targets which amounts to innocent people being attacked by a gang when they're alone or in small groups.
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Post by stu77 on Aug 26, 2022 17:21:06 GMT
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Post by zeopold on Aug 26, 2022 21:47:13 GMT
When one considers how this conflict might have been labelled in the early 70's it makes one flinch.
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