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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 0:46:45 GMT
To each their own, but I think I'd rather be better informed on having my teeth pulled out without an anaesthetic I'm not massively attracted to the sound of hardcore - a few notable exceptions aside. But these organic scenes can be interesting. I enjoyed the Burning Britain book despite not discovering much to enjoy in the music. I'm currently immersed in a Dylan biog and loving it. I'll post more on the Dylan discussion Here speaks an expert on punk rock?🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 0:47:52 GMT
I'm not massively attracted to the sound of hardcore - a few notable exceptions aside. It's mostly a worthless form of music. To my ear the best example pre-dates the label Another ignorant fanny🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 0:59:51 GMT
The book casts its musical net wide... it would be more accurate to say it's a book about Punk Rock in America in the 80s and the birth of a network of Independent labels inspired by it. bands like: Husker Du, Dead Kennedys, TSOL, Social Distortion, Channel 3, The Adolescents, The Effigies, Flipper, The Misfits, D.O.A., The Descendents, The Dicks, Butthole Surfers, Big Boys and many more, are included in this book and they recorded music that went way beyond what is generally thought of as 'Hardcore' No that's completely unrepresentative of the narrative of Blush's book. Did you read it properly? The bands you mention-which possibly are your selective favourites-make up a tiny minority of the bands Blush covers. I mean the likes of TSOL for example used hardcore briefly after 1 ep before they went onto do some shite goth albums before they became an embarrassing poodle rock band. Fakes of the highest order. Blush doesn't shirk from mentioning this. Anyone who has listened to TSOL can hear that they were total opportunists. Do some research👍
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 4, 2021 9:06:44 GMT
I'm not massively attracted to the sound of hardcore - a few notable exceptions aside. But these organic scenes can be interesting. I enjoyed the Burning Britain book despite not discovering much to enjoy in the music. I'm currently immersed in a Dylan biog and loving it. I'll post more on the Dylan discussion Here speaks an expert on punk rock?🤣🤣🤣🤣 What?
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 4, 2021 9:11:01 GMT
I can save you the £8 quid Nigey, as i have just found it ...and i should have looked in the most obvious place. (The large chapter on the Bad Brains) unless i am very much mistaken this is the only reference to the Bonds gigs with The Clash in the book. You can draw your own conclusions from this... View AttachmentWhat edition was that from Andy? Andy has sent me his copy. I'll let you know when it arrives.
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Post by Billy Idle on Jul 4, 2021 12:35:44 GMT
That's it! FFS "Bad Brains scored a major triumph in June 81 by opening a show on The Clash's fabled week long stint at Bond's casino...I can tell you that the Bad Brains made little impact. The crowd came to see The Clash; they could've cared less about anything else. On other nights of that series, Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow and ESG endured the booing of Clash fans throwing beer cans and yelling "Disco Sucks"" What a let down Doesn't say anything about Bad Brains being abused at all. Rogue, did you read a different book?! No wonder Darryl never mentioned it. Disco Sucks! They must have been crying backstage afterwards Not exactly sustained racist abuse is it Still we should demand a written apology from Topper, Mick and Paul It's pretty conclusive that these bands were racially abused by the Clash's audience according to Blush. Again , what edition is that? Why would I make it up?! Why would you make it up ? We don’t know. Why did you make it up? Maybe because you hate the Clash and wanted to prove a point? You want it to be true but it’s bullshit. Blush never wrote it. You probably believe it is true but its there in black and white. There is no alternative edition where Blush suddenly has new and completely different memories about the Bonds shows. Blush never said Bad Brains were abused by The Clash crowd at Bonds. It was worse than that. They were ignored. The only groups who were abused accorded to Blush were ESG and Grandmaster Flash, on different nights. No N words either just disco sucks. You could always take a photo of the page of your edition and share it here. Good luck with that because it only exists in your head. You were found out. Own it You should apologise for slandering the Clash and spreading lies.
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Post by doug61 on Jul 4, 2021 13:32:41 GMT
I'm not massively attracted to the sound of hardcore - a few notable exceptions aside. But these organic scenes can be interesting. I enjoyed the Burning Britain book despite not discovering much to enjoy in the music. I'm currently immersed in a Dylan biog and loving it. I'll post more on the Dylan discussion Here speaks an expert on punk rock?🤣🤣🤣🤣 Punk is an attitude as much as a musical "sound", Dylan was a punk in the early 60's royally pissing off the folkies. Never get this idea that you have to stay in one limiting sound to be "punk". That narrow attitude was exactly what started punk off. People got fed up being told they must like prog or whatever and took music back for anyone to do or like whatever the fuck they wanted.
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Post by zeopold on Jul 4, 2021 19:53:36 GMT
It's mostly a worthless form of music. To my ear the best example pre-dates the label Another ignorant fanny🤣🤣🤣 Prolly not on your radar at the time, unlike Airfix kits and Hot Wheels
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 5, 2021 12:24:33 GMT
It's pretty conclusive that these bands were racially abused by the Clash's audience according to Blush. Again , what edition is that? Why would I make it up?! Yes it was a good idea to have Bad Brains on. Pity that the Clash didn't challenge the racists when they were using the n word and trying to assault them. Maybe you could suggest something rather than sticking your head in the sand pretending that these type of events don't happen. 2001 edition I've just read the entire Bad Brains chapter The only reference to the Bonds shows is the one Andy already posted which speaks for itself....
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Post by zeopold on Jul 6, 2021 10:58:29 GMT
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Post by personunknown on Jul 6, 2021 11:58:02 GMT
I take it that this is them all auditioning for a Sparks tribute band....
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Post by doug61 on Jul 6, 2021 12:56:35 GMT
They waiting for the limousine, anyway?
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Post by stu77 on Jul 7, 2021 17:27:37 GMT
Bass guitar smashed at Clash gig to join relics at Museum of London
Fender bass was hurled into stage by Paul Simonon in New York, as seen on London Calling album cover
It is in a right state, frankly, as a result of being smashed in anger by the Clash bass player Paul Simonon, but a guitar that is a slice of rock history will this month join Roman mosaics and 15th-century altar paintings to help tell the history of Britain’s capital city.
The Museum of London has announced that the splintered pieces of Simonon’s Fender Precision bass will go on permanent display from 23 July.......
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Post by Billy Idle on Jul 8, 2021 8:51:12 GMT
NO sign of Roguepunk then ? Keeping a low profile most probably. Its allright rogue, we all make mistakes. We forgive you.
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Post by doug61 on Jul 8, 2021 12:35:15 GMT
Bass guitar smashed at Clash gig to join relics at Museum of London
Fender bass was hurled into stage by Paul Simonon in New York, as seen on London Calling album cover
It is in a right state, frankly, as a result of being smashed in anger by the Clash bass player Paul Simonon, but a guitar that is a slice of rock history will this month join Roman mosaics and 15th-century altar paintings to help tell the history of Britain’s capital city.
The Museum of London has announced that the splintered pieces of Simonon’s Fender Precision bass will go on permanent display from 23 July.......
Punk as history in Museums, an idea that makes me very conflicted.
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