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Post by zeopold on Jul 2, 2021 10:46:53 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 2, 2021 10:53:08 GMT
Mick Jones was in the London SS
Coincidence?
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Post by zeopold on Jul 2, 2021 10:57:48 GMT
^^ The plot thickens. Ever since they learned four chords they have made Skrewdriver look like Bob Marley & The Wailers |
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Post by doug61 on Jul 2, 2021 11:03:32 GMT
Mick Jones was in the London SS
Coincidence?
Hard to find someone who wasn't in the London SS, My nan played bass for a while.  |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 2, 2021 12:56:56 GMT
Can you remember what page of the American Hardcore book the paragraphs about the gigs at Bonds are, R.P.? i have been reading through passages of chapters trying to find it. It’s a really good book, really well structured… but like i say, i know that Steven Blush has come under scrutiny and criticism himself as a consequence of his writing. I am just trying to get a bit of perspective on what he claims. As for The Clash… well, i certainly don’t put them on any kind of ‘untouchable’ pedestal. Joe Strummer himself said they made every mistake in the book - For me they were not “The Only Band That Mattered” …far from it …but if they just wanted to be Rock Stars and nothing else, they could have made life a lot easier for themselves… especially regarding the cost of some of their records, ticket price for some of their gigs and the promotion of their records. I'm looking for a cheap copy of Hardcore. So far the cheapest is £8. Anyway I'll get hold of it sometime soon so I too would be interested in the page number so I can read it for myself. Please can you help Rogue? |
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Post by andyloneshark on Jul 2, 2021 13:27:41 GMT
I can save you the £8 quid Nigey, as i have just found it ...and i should have looked in the most obvious place. (The large chapter on the Bad Brains) unless i am very much mistaken this is the only reference to the Bonds gigs with The Clash in the book. You can draw your own conclusions from this...  |
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Post by zeopold on Jul 2, 2021 13:31:43 GMT
^^ If you watch 'Triumph of the Will' you can also see massed ranks of stormtroopers chanting 'Disco Sucks' at the Nuremberg rallies  |
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Post by Billy Idle on Jul 2, 2021 14:24:13 GMT
That's it! FFS "Bad Brains scored a major triumph in June 81 by opening a show on The Clash's fabled week long stint at Bond's casino...I can tell you that the Bad Brains made little impact. The crowd came to see The Clash; they could've cared less about anything else. On other nights of that series, Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow and ESG endured the booing of Clash fans throwing beer cans and yelling "Disco Sucks"" What a let down Doesn't say anything about Bad Brains being abused at all. Rogue, did you read a different book?! No wonder Darryl never mentioned it. Disco Sucks!  They must have been crying backstage afterwards Not exactly sustained racist abuse is it Still we should demand a written apology from Topper, Mick and Paul  |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 2, 2021 14:50:15 GMT
I can save you the £8 quid Nigey, as i have just found it ...and i should have looked in the most obvious place. (The large chapter on the Bad Brains) unless i am very much mistaken this is the only reference to the Bonds gigs with The Clash in the book. You can draw your own conclusions from this... Thanks Andy. V helpful. I'm keen to read the book anyway when I can find a cheapo copy. I'd like to be better informed on US hardcore. As for the section on Bad Brains at Bonds, no mention of appalling racism by the crowd at Bonds at all. Not what I was expecting based on some of Rogue's comments, for example... Yes it was a good idea to have Bad Brains on. Pity that the Clash didn't challenge the racists when they were using the n word and trying to assault them. Maybe you could suggest something rather than sticking your head in the sand pretending that these type of events don't happen. |
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Post by zeopold on Jul 2, 2021 15:43:53 GMT
I'd like to be better informed on US hardcore. To each their own, but I think I'd rather be better informed on having my teeth pulled out without an anaesthetic |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 2, 2021 17:14:34 GMT
I'd like to be better informed on US hardcore. To each their own, but I think I'd rather be better informed on having my teeth pulled out without an anaesthetic I'm not massively attracted to the sound of hardcore - a few notable exceptions aside. But these organic scenes can be interesting. I enjoyed the Burning Britain book despite not discovering much to enjoy in the music. I'm currently immersed in a Dylan biog and loving it. I'll post more on the Dylan discussion |
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Post by andyloneshark on Jul 2, 2021 17:40:02 GMT
The book casts its musical net wide... it would be more accurate to say it's a book about Punk Rock in America in the 80s and the birth of a network of Independent labels inspired by it. bands like: Husker Du, Dead Kennedys, TSOL, Social Distortion, Channel 3, The Adolescents, The Effigies, Flipper, The Misfits, D.O.A., The Descendents, The Dicks, Butthole Surfers, Big Boys and many more, are included in this book and they recorded music that went way beyond what is generally thought of as 'Hardcore'
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Post by zeopold on Jul 2, 2021 21:50:28 GMT
To each their own, but I think I'd rather be better informed on having my teeth pulled out without an anaesthetic I'm not massively attracted to the sound of hardcore - a few notable exceptions aside. It's mostly a worthless form of music. To my ear the best example pre-dates the label |
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I can save you the £8 quid Nigey, as i have just found it ...and i should have looked in the most obvious place. (The large chapter on the Bad Brains) unless i am very much mistaken this is the only reference to the Bonds gigs with The Clash in the book. You can draw your own conclusions from this... View AttachmentWhat edition was that from Andy? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 0:40:50 GMT
That's it! FFS "Bad Brains scored a major triumph in June 81 by opening a show on The Clash's fabled week long stint at Bond's casino...I can tell you that the Bad Brains made little impact. The crowd came to see The Clash; they could've cared less about anything else. On other nights of that series, Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow and ESG endured the booing of Clash fans throwing beer cans and yelling "Disco Sucks"" What a let down Doesn't say anything about Bad Brains being abused at all. Rogue, did you read a different book?! No wonder Darryl never mentioned it. Disco Sucks! They must have been crying backstage afterwards Not exactly sustained racist abuse is it Still we should demand a written apology from Topper, Mick and Paul It's pretty conclusive that these bands were racially abused by the Clash's audience according to Blush. Again , what edition is that? Why would I make it up?! |
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