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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 8, 2022 15:01:50 GMT
I bloody loved Pistol I was really cynical about it when I saw the trailer and was convinced it was going to be woeful Perhaps having lowered expectations helped Once I accepted it's a work of drama and the characters said and did certain things that clearly never actually happened, and I just went with it, it became ever more compelling Danny Boyle really knows how to put this kind of thing together I think he really gets to the heart of the group and what gave them so much impact & resonance The evocation of the 70s is brilliant. Also, particularly good is... - the live music scenes - the portrayal of McLaren - the portrayal of Johnny - the portrayal of Sid and Nancy - the American tour - the Huddersfield Xmas gig - Grundy - signing for A&M - the Riverboat Jubilee event There's some stuff that is wrong but who cares when it's all done with so much thoughfulness and dramatic impact Pistol, along with The Filth and the Fury, really captures the magic of the group and the broader early UK scene Don't believe the naysayers Brilliant I could rewatch it all again right now - I may even do that 5/5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2022 16:39:00 GMT
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Post by stu77 on Jun 8, 2022 19:23:56 GMT
Near the end of the last episode Steve Jones says to Lydon:
"It ain't all about you"
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 9, 2022 5:23:40 GMT
Near the end of the last episode Steve Jones says to Lydon: "It ain't all about you" Great line That evocation of the American tour is brilliant and deals with the tensions really well. All of them were too young and ill equipped to deal with that pressure. McLaren should have been there to get them through it but, as we know, he had his own agenda John had to go. Just a shame the others couldn't see what he did.
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Post by stu77 on Jun 9, 2022 13:11:25 GMT
There has always been confusion about what happened at the end in San Francisco. Lydon has never admitted that he was booted out. Which you'd expect.
But it was not designed to last and I'm glad it didn't.
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Post by doug61 on Jun 9, 2022 14:58:54 GMT
Seen 2 now and can't deny it's much better than I thought it you ignore the time line which seems a bit all over the place. Viv and Malc stand out so far and the Game Of Thrones girl woman does a good job with Jordan. There's a sense of "fairy tale" to it and I'd like to see a whole lot more grittiness to reflect the times. Even the tatty Denmark St. rehearsal space has a feel of being rather artfully designed. Loved the use of The Bay City Rollers music in No. 2.
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Post by stu77 on Jun 10, 2022 0:43:03 GMT
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Post by stu77 on Jun 10, 2022 15:45:00 GMT
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Post by stu77 on Jun 10, 2022 16:03:52 GMT
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Post by doug61 on Jun 12, 2022 14:00:16 GMT
Saw the "Pauline" episode last night and could have done without it to be honest, felt somewhat exploitative without really moving the story along much, not sure if it's ever been covered what lyrics Lydon wrote first (can't be arsed to read his book again) but even if the point was to show his beginnings as a song writer, not sure it needed a whole episode. First episode that I've started to really notice the underwriting of Cook and Matlock too and the portrayal of Nick Kent would lead you to believe that Boyle must have some real problem with the bloke.
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Post by doug61 on Jun 13, 2022 9:17:09 GMT
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 13, 2022 9:27:27 GMT
Yes. Fundamental problem with all biopics.
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Post by doug61 on Jun 16, 2022 13:48:47 GMT
Watched the "Grundy" one last night and thought it a return to form although you really do have to wonder at why Paul Cook is pretty much ignored so far as if he was a completely peripheral figure, Chrissie Hynde gets far more importance played on her character than he does. Also, for an episode that spent time talking about "turning the male gaze inward" in relation to "sexy clothing", the Chrissie actress spends as much time with her clothes off as on.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jun 16, 2022 14:49:08 GMT
Watched the "Grundy" one last night and thought it a return to form although you really do have to wonder at why Paul Cook is pretty much ignored so far as if he was a completely peripheral figure, Chrissie Hynde gets far more importance played on her character than he does. Also, for an episode that spent time talking about "turning the male gaze inward" in relation to "sexy clothing", the Chrissie actress spends as much time with her clothes off as on. Yes, I thought the Grundy episode was a good one. The whole Chrissie narrative is pretty much complete fabrication so far as I can make out but it does provide a useful way of highlighting the sexism that was rife then and links a few of the key characters together. Gotta say if I was Chrissie I'd be pretty happy with the way I was portrayed, even if a lot is made up. She emerges as a real hero by the end of the series
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Post by jonpunk on Jul 4, 2022 8:58:17 GMT
If I could rip this off, I'd watch it but I ain't paying for it. Those photo's don't bode well🤣 Same here . Haven't got Disney and no intention of getting it .
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