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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 19:25:17 GMT
Post by politician2 on Aug 30, 2022 19:25:17 GMT
A novel solution to the energy crisis would be to put Poli & co in front of the telly to watch Channel 5’s Anne Boleyn series and run a pipe from their earholes to a steam turbine I found that truly astonishing. Anne Boleyn was not black. In casting a historical drama featuring real-life characters, every effort should be made to secure actors that bear a physical resemblance to the real person for the sake of verisimilitude. I don't want to see Anne Boleyn played by a black woman any more than I want to see Malcolm X portrayed by a white man. Come to that, I wouldn't want to see Henry VIII played by a short, thin, beardless man with black or blond hair either.
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Post by zeopold on Aug 30, 2022 19:28:12 GMT
A novel solution to the energy crisis would be to put Poli & co in front of the telly to watch Channel 5’s Anne Boleyn series and run a pipe from their earholes to a steam turbine I found that truly astonishing. Anne Boleyn was not black. You don't say...
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 19:30:37 GMT
Post by politician2 on Aug 30, 2022 19:30:37 GMT
I found that truly astonishing. Anne Boleyn was not black. You don't say... Yes, I'm full of amazing revelations today. Who are the people in the picture, by the way? Or am I being spectacularly dim here?
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 19:30:40 GMT
Post by Lord Emsworth on Aug 30, 2022 19:30:40 GMT
The solution suddenly struck me too What are adverts designed to do? Sell products and services So even if minorites make up a relatively small percentage of the population they are still an important demographic, see also the Pink Pound etc. With that in mind, it's little wonder that advertisers want as many people as possible to see themselves represented. It's also why many ads are so multi-generational as well. Adverts are not meant to be an accurate represenation of the country, adverts are meant to sell stuff to as wider group as possible. The more generic the product (e.g. fast food, supermarkets, holiday companies, insurers, financial services) the broader they want the ad's reach to be. Obvious when you think about it Case closed Not really, no. You're absolutely right: you would indeed expect minorities to be overrepresented in advertising to some extent (and I speak from experience, having been a copywriter from the mid-eighties onwards). They always have been. But not to the extent where 3% of the population makes up nearly 50% of the people in commercials. That is something new, different, and frankly odd. It's even odder that it's specifically black people, as I have noted, and not other ethnic minorities. In my analysis today I noticed quite a few asians too - often the images are so fleeting it's hard to tell but definitely some people of asian origin on some of the ads
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 19:34:41 GMT
Post by zeopold on Aug 30, 2022 19:34:41 GMT
You don't say... Who are the people in the picture, by the way? Or am I being spectacularly dim here?
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 19:37:44 GMT
Post by politician2 on Aug 30, 2022 19:37:44 GMT
Yes, I was being spectacularly dumb. Again, bad casting. Othello should actually be black, not blacked-up.
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 19:39:31 GMT
Post by politician2 on Aug 30, 2022 19:39:31 GMT
In my analysis today I noticed quite a few asians too - often the images are so fleeting it's hard to tell but definitely some people of asian origin on some of the ads Yes, you will indeed spot a few "fleeting" Asians. You won't see many, if any, in frontline roles in commercials. The only exception I can immediately think of is one set in India (for DHL) in which all the characters are obviously Asian.
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 19:48:40 GMT
Post by zeopold on Aug 30, 2022 19:48:40 GMT
Again, bad casting. Othello should actually be black, not blacked-up. In other news, some people get worked up over actors performing Shakespeare clad in anything other than doublet and hose.
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 19:58:43 GMT
Post by politician2 on Aug 30, 2022 19:58:43 GMT
In other news, some people get worked up over actors performing Shakespeare clad in anything other than doublet and hose. Not quite the same thing. Modern interpretations of Shakespeare can be very powerful. A black Anne Boleyn, on the other hand, is nothing short of ludicrous.
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Aug 30, 2022 20:07:56 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2022 20:07:56 GMT
It's driven by political definition. The Cuban Revolution was and is a popular workers and peasant revolution and continues to be supported by the majority of the island's population. They have the right to defend themselves against counter-revolutionary criminals as in any war situation. I don't see the Tory and US governments screaming for trade embargoes against China and Saudi Arabia who have some of the worst records for human rights in the world. As for Bloody Sunday? The Kitson inspired war mongers of the British State deliberately drove a legitimate civil rights movement from the streets which resulted in 14 innocent civilians being murdered. This in turn was a catalyst for the nationalist working class to turn to the IRA for defence against state sponsored thugs and latterly MI5 run loyalist death squads. As for being cynical. It has nothing to do with cynicism. I pick my side, as do you. If the revolution is "supported by the majority of the island's population", why will the Cuban regime not hold free and fair multi-party elections? Answer: because it knows it is not supported by the majority and would lose. It can only stay in power by implementing totalitarianism and rigged elections. As for China and Saudi Arabia, you're absolutely right – they're both as unpleasant as Cuba; the latter potentially even more so. But that's not what we're discussing here. Your crocodile tears about "[driving] a legitimate civil rights movement from the streets" are persuading nobody of your commitment to human rights. You openly applaud it when the Cuban regime imprisons, tortures, brainwashes and murders peaceful political opponents on the basis that they are "counter-revolutionary criminals". The simple fact is that you are arguing that black is white: that liberal democracies are dictatorships and dictatorships are liberal democracies. It's the blatantly cynical position that is always taken by communists and other defenders of totalitarianism. I repeat: you are fooling nobody. More Paper Tiger assumptions gained from the internet and the Daily Express. Have you been either Cuba or Derry? I doubt it. If you had you realise it's an extreme right wing view which resonates with no one. It doesn't bother me what you think of me or what I believe Politician. On the contrary, I take it as a complement because you're so out of touch with reality.🇮🇪👍
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 20:12:45 GMT
Post by politician2 on Aug 30, 2022 20:12:45 GMT
It doesn't bother me what you think of me or what I believe Politician. On the contrary, I take it as a complement because you're so out of touch with reality.🇮🇪👍 Says the man who thinks the killing of 14 people in Northern Ireland is a tragedy but the killing of 15,000 in Cuba is a justifiable necessity.
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Post by zeopold on Aug 30, 2022 20:29:32 GMT
In other news, some people get worked up over actors performing Shakespeare clad in anything other than doublet and hose. A black Anne Boleyn, on the other hand, is nothing short of ludicrous. 'Ludicrous' is not a recent innovation
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 20:37:17 GMT
Post by politician2 on Aug 30, 2022 20:37:17 GMT
'Ludicrous' is not a recent innovation Since I'd regard Jesus as a fictional character, not quite as ludicrous.
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 20:44:57 GMT
Post by zeopold on Aug 30, 2022 20:44:57 GMT
'Ludicrous' is not a recent innovation I'd regard Jesus as a fictional character His near-contemporaries Pliny and Tacitus regarded him otherwise.
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Woke
Aug 30, 2022 20:48:47 GMT
Post by politician2 on Aug 30, 2022 20:48:47 GMT
I'd regard Jesus as a fictional character His near-contemporaries Pliny and Tacitus regarded him otherwise. Well, that takes us into a completely different debate. There is certainly a possibility that the Biblical Jesus was based on a real-life preacher; the question is how much myth was woven into the oral (and later written) history. I certainly don't think the "real" Jesus, if he existed, was in any way an immortal or extraterrestrial being, but if you hold religious beliefs you might well think otherwise.
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