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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 10:43:58 GMT
I don't (listen to the Ramones) Thats impressive rogue . Your an inspiration I ain't giving up da brudders for no one Are there any artists you liek who have given you pause for thought ? Or any that you allow but feel a bit uncomfortable about ? What about Bad Brains when H.R. was vocalist ? Have thise recording been purged ? Or MDC ? We've discussed MDC/Bad Brains many times over the years. I think you were probably trolling somewhere else at the time. Like so many others at the time, I had stopped listening to Bad Brains before their homophobia towards Dave Diktor. Their behaviour towards MDC only confirmed the way they were going. |
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Post by Billy Idle on Jan 31, 2023 12:59:22 GMT
I don 't come on here that often so miss a lot of the detail
Great that you are so ideologicaly pure , its very impressive and maybe even a bit weird
Where are you forced to compromise ?
Are there any artists you like who have given you pause for thought ?
Does eveyrone you know have same purity as you ?
How many people have you had to stop seeing becasue of your stance ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 13:22:38 GMT
^The only person that might think that is you.
It has nothing to do with'purity'. Everyone on here gives their views on music and politics every time they post.
The only person who's 'weird' on here is you for thinking like that.
Stop trolling and engage with people constructively. However, I don't think that's what you're on here for.
Who were you on the old board?
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Post by Billy Idle on Jan 31, 2023 13:26:48 GMT
I wasn 't on the old board
I don 't understand why you think I 'm trolling
The purity comment is about how you say you will not listen to anyone whose views you disagree with , or even know anyone in the real world
I 'm geuniely impressed by that and am interested in what difficulties it causes you
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 13:39:10 GMT
I wasn 't on the old board I don 't understand why you think I 'm trolling The purity comment is about how you say you will not listen to anyone whose views you disagree with , or even know anyone in the real world I 'm geuniely impressed by that and am interested in what difficulties it causes you Of course you weren't😄👍 You just seem to follow threads without saying much then when you do it's clear you're not interested in adding anything constructive. I do listen to people. Some I agree with and some I don't. The 'real world' up here is not voting Tory, New Labour or Brexit. There are reasons for this. Some people are ignorant of this political reality and fail to understand the 'whys'. Perhaps you can educate yourself on the 'whys'? It doesn't cause me any difficulties whatsoever. What a bizarre comment.😄 |
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Post by Billy Idle on Jan 31, 2023 13:49:08 GMT
It doens 't seem bizarre to me .
You come over as someeone with very hard and rigid opinions , also someone who does not ever compromise
Or is that wrong ?
I think many people wouuld see your approach as quite extreme but you suggest this is what everyone in Glasgow is liek
I only know a few people from Glasgow and they have moved away so are maybe not reprsentative ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 14:01:35 GMT
It doens 't seem bizarre to me . You come over as someeone with very hard and rigid opinions , also someone who does not ever compromise Or is that wrong ? I think many people wouuld see your approach as quite extreme but you suggest this is what everyone in Glasgow is liek I only know a few people from Glasgow and they have moved away so are maybe not reprsentative ? These opinions are quite liberal. If you're a right winger or New Labour supporter you won't like them. They are also not unusual in Scotland and herein lies the rub. Because you live in a right wing environment with right wing parties, anything outside of this is seen to be 'hard and 'extreme'. It seems to be beyond your comprehension. The real extremists are the politicians in New Labour and the Tory parties. |
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Post by Billy Idle on Jan 31, 2023 14:22:14 GMT
I yhink we have different defintions of liberal .
You might be right as we are all shpaed by our environment and unconsciously adopt thoughts and behaviours we might not be aware of .
I don 't really see how you can label labour politicians extremists though
An extemist is someone on the margins and cleaerly that does not apply in this instance . Labour are a mainstream political party .
Or do you mean those on the hard left of the party ?
it 's maybe an example of your own somewhat extreme opinions which are maybe not as liberal as you think ?
Perhaps we 're both deluded ? LOL
Tories deinitely have some extemists in there ranks though - Truss, Kwartgang and rees Mogg and all that Tufton street lot for starters
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 14:31:35 GMT
I yhink we have different defintions of liberal . You might be right as we are all shpaed by our environment and unconsciously adopt thoughts and behaviours we might not be aware of . I don 't really see how you can label labour politicians extremists though An extemist is someone on the margins and cleaerly that does not apply in this instance . Labour are a mainstream political party . Or do you mean those on the hard left of the party ? it 's maybe an example of your own somewhat extreme opinions which are maybe not as liberal as you think ? Perhaps we 're both deluded ? LOL Tories deinitely have some extemists in there ranks though - Truss, Kwartgang and rees Mogg and all that Tufton street lot for starters I think you mind try and rethink that if you don't think 'extremists' aren't mainstream. Look at the American Republican party and the Nazi's. Both had popular support. As have New Labour when they illegally invaded Iraq. Sent troops into Ireland, operated death squads against nationalist civilians. By voting for New Labour and the Tory party, their supporters endorse these crimes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 14:34:38 GMT
Can this be put elsewhere as it's nothing to do with hardcore punk👍
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Post by Billy Idle on Jan 31, 2023 15:08:48 GMT
So voters endorse historical crimes commited by old governments ?
Its clearly not the case
This is maybe another example of your extremism ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 15:32:33 GMT
So voters endorse historical crimes commited by old governments ? Its clearly not the case This is maybe another example of your extremism ? So that makes mass murder ok? You do know that the Iraq War broke international law? These people should be in prison for war crimes Considering that I've never killed anyone, voted for a party that has killed anyone and people like Andy Burnham and Yvette Cooper who both voted for the War in Iraq remain in New Labour and as of yet go untried. Cooper has also consistently opposed an enquiry, I wonder why? I'll leave it to your morality to deduce who is the extremist....well maybe not. |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jan 31, 2023 15:34:36 GMT
It is undoubtedly a stain on the Labour Party
But, as we've discussed many times, here in jolly old England we've only got two choices
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2023 15:39:53 GMT
It is undoubtedly a stain on the Labour Party But, as we've discussed many times, here in jolly old England we've only got two choices It's like Russian roulette with two bullets. Labour must split or it'll just be the same cycle of right wing politics. |
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Post by Billy Idle on Jan 31, 2023 15:47:22 GMT
Labour have split a few times and the breakaway parties just die a quick death .
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