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Post by doug61 on Jul 11, 2021 14:56:22 GMT
Seem to remember a lot of action down front at gigs that came pretty close to "slamdancing" in the UK before that.
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Post by Billy Idle on Jul 12, 2021 13:30:05 GMT
Seem to remember a lot of action down front at gigs that came pretty close to "slamdancing" in the UK before that. I don't really remember that. What era are you remembering doug61 ? Seems to me moshing got imported from America sometime in the 80s. Plus stagediving. |
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Post by doug61 on Jul 12, 2021 16:30:50 GMT
Seem to remember a lot of action down front at gigs that came pretty close to "slamdancing" in the UK before that. I don't really remember that. What era are you remembering doug61 ? Seems to me moshing got imported from America sometime in the 80s. Plus stagediving. Late 70's but perhaps I'm muddling up with later gigs. Memory ain't what it was. |
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Post by personunknown on Jul 12, 2021 16:40:24 GMT
First time I witnessed stage diving was The Dead Kennedys, Nottingham Boat Club, September 1980.
Slam dancing is supposed to have come from the US early eighties but sometimes at the height of a 77/78 pogo, you'd go bouncing hard into each other, waking up black and blue the next day.
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Post by andyloneshark on Jul 12, 2021 18:38:26 GMT
OK T.P.'ers ...Brian is going to explain to you here, the subtle nuances of Slam Dancing...
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Post by personunknown on Jul 12, 2021 18:58:48 GMT
Strictly Come Slam Dancing, it'd make a great show.
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Post by zeopold on Jul 12, 2021 19:39:59 GMT
What a crappy scene. If I'd wanted to hang around thuggy blokes acting hard I would have gone to watch the football.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2021 22:15:57 GMT
Seem to remember a lot of action down front at gigs that came pretty close to "slamdancing" in the UK before that. I don't really remember that. What era are you remembering doug61 ? Seems to me moshing got imported from America sometime in the 80s. Plus stagediving. I don't know about 'slamming' but I certainly did plenty of stage diving in the 80's. Moshing came later with the advent of the crossover sound as typified by the likes of DRI,COC Suicidial Tendancies etc |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 28, 2021 13:13:34 GMT
Now on to the racism and homophobia rife in elements of the scene Blush is very matter of fact about “fag bashing”. Depressing stuff The straight edge versus anti-straight edge factions was quite interesting. All in all it’s making me think how fucked up America was in the early 80s. I've nearly finished Steven Blush's American Hardcore Interesting but it is not a particularly flattering portrait of the scene or America in that era. In the main it seemed an incredibly macho, violent, and intolerant scene with lots of infighting and gangs. I've sampled quite a bit of the music and outside of the groups I already liked (Minutemen, Husker Du etc) have not found much that appeals to me. Still hopefully I am better informed although Blush's bonafides have been called into question by other commentators, so who knows? For example, KB Corbett from New York Punk band Even Worse states she never saw him at hardcore gigs and she disagrees with a lot of what he wrote in the book |
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Post by andyloneshark on Jul 28, 2021 13:54:05 GMT
Still hopefully I am better informed although Blush's bonafides have been called into question by other commentators, so who knows? For example, KB Corbett from New York Punk band Even Worse states she never saw him at hardcore gigs and she disagrees with a lot of what he wrote in the book ...now, where did you find that out?  It's a good book... as much, if not more because of the contributions from band members than Blush's writing... i wouldn't base an overall judgement on the genre on the strength of one book. I had the benefit of 20 years listening and reading, before the book was published, i learnt alot from friends in America and Australia too. Ironically... considering some of what has been posted on TP of late - Steven Blush went on to write books about American Hair Metal   |
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Post by jsm on Jul 28, 2021 23:22:07 GMT
I really knew American hardcore was not for me after I learned all about it on Quincy ME in 1983 [this episode was from Dec 1982, but it would have aired in Australia the following year]
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 29, 2021 8:33:27 GMT
That's quite some episode of Quincy. Enough to put anyone off Hardcore.
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Post by zeopold on Jul 29, 2021 9:37:24 GMT
I really knew American hardcore was not for me after I learned all about it on Quincy ME in 1983
I'm in  |
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Post by andyloneshark on Jul 29, 2021 9:48:28 GMT
...nothing that a 'Nerve Pinch' from Mr Spock can't sort out! |
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Jul 29, 2021 10:05:31 GMT
...nothing that a 'Nerve Pinch' from Mr Spock can't sort out! Great stuff Andy Love it Reminds me of the lyrics to the Beastie's Intergalactic.... Now when I wrote graffiti, my name was Slop
If my rap's soup, my beats is stock
Step from the table when I start to chop
I'm the lumberjack, DJ Adrock
If you try to knock me, you'll get mocked
I'll stir fry you in my wok
Your knees'll start shaking and your fingers pop
Like a pinch on the neck from Mr. Spock |
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