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Post by zeopold on Aug 6, 2020 21:40:41 GMT
Don't waste your money. I saw them at Southampton Top Rank back in 78. Menace opened for them and were the better group by a significant margin. I think they're just a group of old guys now so if they were at one of these big Scotland Calling gigs I'd have a look. Can't see it in the current Covid climate though. I have no interest in seeing any of those old new wave groups. They belong to the past. The only exception I'd make is to see Gen X play 'Valley of the Dolls' live.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2020 21:42:33 GMT
I know what you mean as it's just a load of old codswallop really but I was looking forward to the Scotland Calling bash as I've never been to one before.
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Post by jsm on Aug 7, 2020 4:24:12 GMT
I'll admit to being ill-informed of any later material by Sham. I thought there were some good songs on the first album, and less of interest in the second album. I was probably hearing a lot about the more-hair-than-brains crowds they were attracting and just lost interest in them.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Aug 7, 2020 7:01:41 GMT
I saw them about 15 years ago in a smallish club. Really enjoyed it.
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Post by stu77 on Sept 21, 2020 16:38:48 GMT
Article by Luke Haines in the latest Record Collector bigging up That's Life
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 21, 2020 18:24:47 GMT
Article by Luke Haines in the latest Record Collector bigging up That's Life Interesting. I can barely remember it now. Is it any good?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 18:25:55 GMT
That's Life?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 18:27:39 GMT
This is the best thing Sham did I reckon.
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Post by stu77 on Sept 21, 2020 18:27:49 GMT
Article by Luke Haines in the latest Record Collector bigging up That's Life Interesting. I can barely remember it now. Is it any good? It's the one that features Pursey arguing with his mum (I think) in between tracks. Years since I heard it.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 21, 2020 18:29:22 GMT
Ah yes. That sounds familiar. Perhaps it’s time to reevaluate it? It’s gonna be on YouTube and/or Spotify
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Post by Bassy on Sept 21, 2020 19:42:50 GMT
I played some songs from that album on my punk/HC radio over the last few years, "Evil way" and "Sunday morning nightmare", mainly for comic relief. "No entry", the b-side of "If the kids...." was intentionally humorous.
Sham were one of the punk bands I genuinely liked back in 77/78, along with Buzzcocks, Stranglers and X Ray Spex. I was only 12 years old in August 1977 and enjoyed the more accessible punk bands at that time. I was too young to grasp Pursey's rather cartoon-ish, exaggerated Cockney barrow boy persona, which, as an East Ender myself, grated on me in later years.
Ms Dayglo maintains that the first few times she saw Sham, they were an exciting, apparently genuine addition to the punk bands at The Roxy etc. I'll just have to take her word for it because after the first couple of singles, they degenerated into a raucous novelty band.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Sept 21, 2020 20:00:55 GMT
I saw them at the 100 club (quite exciting and enjoyable) and the Roundhouse (scary and less enjoyable due to rampaging skinhead gangs). I blame them for the skinhead revival something we could all have done without.
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Post by Bassy on Sept 21, 2020 20:19:22 GMT
I saw them at the 100 club (quite exciting and enjoyable) and the Roundhouse (scary and less enjoyable due to rampaging skinhead gangs). I blame them for the skinhead revival something we could all have done without. They were the obvious precursor to Oi ! and bands like the Cockney Rejects, who took Sham's "boot boy" persona entirely at face value. Little did Joe Strummer know what kind of monster he'd spawn when he sang that the truth was only known by guttersnipes. Oi! was hugely popular in the Essex housing estate I grew up in. I was considered as something of a freak due to my love of US Hardcore. My first real band, Juvenile Trash (1983/4), was as an Oi! band ( I forget their name as it was so unimaginative) before I joined and moved them on to a more positive track. We sounded like a fairly obvious mixture of our collective (non-Oi!) influences, such as Dead Kennedys, GBH, Discharge and, regrettably, The Exploited. Packs of violent skins aggressively roamed the Thames estuary towns of Essex in those days, most notably the utterly terrifying Tilbury Skins, whose name alone caused punks in the region to shudder.
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Post by zeopold on Sept 21, 2020 20:40:27 GMT
I was impressed by them when I was about 13, but it didn't last long.
One of the first big new wave shows I saw was Sham at Southampton Top Rank. The support, Menace, were better to my ear.
Pursey was, and is a total bell-end.
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Post by jsm on Sept 21, 2020 22:54:17 GMT
The first album sounded exciting. The second album not so. I find it unbelievable that it is now being re-evaluated as something really good, but then I haven't read Haines' article
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