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Post by zeopold on Oct 12, 2021 14:28:00 GMT
^ Disappointing lack of spikeage Zeo
Paradoxically, my barnet at the time didn't reflect the the Dead Heroes' uncompromisingly hardcore punk stance. Minx and the others coaxed me out of retirement to play in their band, and a lot of laughs were had in the process.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 12, 2021 14:29:24 GMT
^ Disappointing lack of spikeage Zeo
Paradoxically, my barnet at the time didn't reflect the the Dead Heroes' uncompromisingly hardcore punk stance. Minx and the others coaxed me out of retirement to play in their band, and a lot of laughs were had in the process. I'm sure So was this before or after the group with the ex-Southern Death Cult members?
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Post by zeopold on Oct 12, 2021 14:33:08 GMT
Paradoxically, my barnet at the time didn't reflect the the Dead Heroes' uncompromisingly hardcore punk stance. Minx and the others coaxed me out of retirement to play in their band, and a lot of laughs were had in the process. I'm sure So was this before or after the group with the ex-Southern Death Cult members? That would have been around 1981, about 5 years before the one with Aky & Buzz.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 12, 2021 14:39:38 GMT
I'm sure So was this before or after the group with the ex-Southern Death Cult members? That would have been around 1981, about 5 years before the one with Aky & Buzz. Thanks Zeo I suspected as much but good to be sure about the chronology Let's have a bit of Fatman on The Tube to celebrate (Astbury looking cool AF)...
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 12, 2021 14:42:41 GMT
By the by in 1985 I had a few weeks on the Greek island of Ios (superb it was too - lived well on a few quid a day, hard to imagine now. Amstels 25 p a bottle!). Anyway there was a bloke there who convinced everyone he was Buzz outta SDC. I met a crew from Bristol and we only realised when we met up back in Bristol that he was full of shit. Sort of thing kids do I suppose. Bit weird though eh? Though he did get a fair bit of attention through it so maybe not.
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Post by zeopold on Oct 12, 2021 14:45:38 GMT
Lol they were such hair bears. Buzz is as bald as a coot now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 21:51:11 GMT
^ Disappointing lack of spikeage Zeo - BTW you've barely changed, just better dressed now
So the solution to world hunger and the unethical treatment of animals is £4 vegan steak bakes from Gregg's? In other news, I've now tried the Gregg's Vegan Sausage roll - £1 if I remember rightly, with a discount for buying more
I was on my hols and saw a Gregg's in Haverfordwest so bought one for all the family
We all agreed they are blimmin tasty
Deffo part of the solution to the climate emergency which is in a large part caused by animal farming
I don't disagree with your argument's regarding vegetarianism or veganism. However, until you get rid of the government's and the economic system which puts profit before anything and anyone, it's just a pointless pose.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 13, 2021 7:21:53 GMT
...until you get rid of the government's and the economic system which puts profit before anything and anyone, it's just a pointless pose On that basis we might as well give up taking any action
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Post by zeopold on Oct 13, 2021 7:27:27 GMT
Pull your finger out, LE... if you really want to change the world, try doing something practical like woke virtue signalling.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2021 7:34:24 GMT
...until you get rid of the government's and the economic system which puts profit before anything and anyone, it's just a pointless pose On that basis we might as well give up taking any action That's not what I'm saying. Unless you get the root of the real problem it's just tokenism. How on earth do you think we got to this conjuncture? Governments of the world have been relentless in using the world's resources for profit without giving a fuck what anyone thinks.
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Post by Billy Idle on Oct 13, 2021 7:41:29 GMT
Isn't tokenism better than nothing ? Its not like armed insurrection is coming anytime soon .
Most change comes from people joining together in common cause and making things happen but you have got to have some shared values before that happens .
Making a stand and saying I am not going to be part of animal suffering and exploitatino ( or whatever your stance is ) is a good starting point ?
So maybe not tokenism or a pointless pose ?
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Post by zeopold on Oct 13, 2021 8:53:56 GMT
Isn't tokenism better than nothing ? Its not like armed insurrection is coming anytime soon . Most change comes from people joining together in common cause and making things happen but you have got to have some shared values before that happens . Making a stand and saying I am not going to be part of animal suffering and exploitatino ( or whatever your stance is ) is a good starting point ? So maybe not tokenism or a pointless pose ? Many years ago I recall being impressed by a quote (in of all things, a Crass pamphlet) that the way you live your life is a political statement, which is particularly relevant to vegetarianism.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2021 11:40:59 GMT
Isn't tokenism better than nothing ? Its not like armed insurrection is coming anytime soon . Most change comes from people joining together in common cause and making things happen but you have got to have some shared values before that happens . Making a stand and saying I am not going to be part of animal suffering and exploitatino ( or whatever your stance is ) is a good starting point ? So maybe not tokenism or a pointless pose ? Abtentionism in itself without solid political content is just vacuous lifestylism. When that replaces what you're actually doing, not much much will change.
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Post by Lord Emsworth on Oct 13, 2021 11:45:29 GMT
What do you mean by solid political content?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2021 11:45:51 GMT
Isn't tokenism better than nothing ? Its not like armed insurrection is coming anytime soon . Most change comes from people joining together in common cause and making things happen but you have got to have some shared values before that happens . Making a stand and saying I am not going to be part of animal suffering and exploitatino ( or whatever your stance is ) is a good starting point ? So maybe not tokenism or a pointless pose ? Many years ago I recall being impressed by a quote (in of all things, a Crass pamphlet) that the way you live your life is a political statement, which is particularly relevant to vegetarianism. I would agree with that to some degree. You have to practice privately what the movement preaches publicly. However, being a vegetarian or a vegan doesn't necessarily make you a moral person so to base a movement purely on a person's eating habits is just complete nonsense.
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